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Hugh McErrol Smith- Lovat Scouts, Camerons & Gordon Highlanders


GK Smith

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Hello,

Trying to find out more about my grandfather's service record, as we are planning a trip to Somme. We know he joined militia in 1907 in Glasgow and we think was attached to Lovat Scouts. We have his medals and attached photograph. 

From the research we have done we know he was with 2nd/2nd  Lovat Scouts 5480, also 1st Cameron Highlanders S26548 and also 8th/10th Gordon Highlanders S40516

Trying to find out his periods of engagement with each regiment and his service history as we know he was engaged on the Somme.

 

We also have a certificate showing he completed a Military Cookery Class when in Lovat Scouts - showing he attended 17 class meetings, and this was in London , at Sussex Road Brixton  dated Aug 6th 1915. Not sure why he would be on extended cookery course in London at this time?

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Graham Smith 

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Graham,

  Welcome to the forum.

  Hugh was married in Blythswood in 1915. His marriage certificate may show which regiment he was with at the time. The certificate is available on scotlandspeople, for a small fee.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

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That's an interesting photo Graham. His Lovat's Scouts collar badges are clearly visible and his Imperial Service Badge on the right side of his chest. Your grandfather is wearing the more common service dress cap, the Lovat's  normally wore a distinctive balmoral and tunic but were likely running low on those by that stage of the war. You are probably aware that 2/2nd were a second line regiment that remained in the UK throughout the war-

 

http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-british-yeomanry-regiments-of-1914-1918/2nd-lovats-scouts-yeomanry/

 

I would suggest that the cookery courses were for training him as a battalion cook.

 

Have you searched for his records on ancestry (or the like). A lot of Lovat's Scout records seemed to have survived. They should fill in the blanks regarding the timeline for the other regiments. I assume the other service numbers came from his medal index card? Might be worth posting it here.

 

Scott 

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There are attestation records (dated 1907) for a Hugh McErrol Smith on FMP under service number 6452. 

They appear to pertain to the Scottish Rifles (possibly 4th SR).

 

  

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Thanks Ron for this info. He has a name that does stand out, and we had found this attestation document. We know from census in 1901 he would have been born in 1894, and this paper suggests his birth date is 1890. The search continues!

Regards

 

Graham 

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Graham,

  Hugh may have been born in 1893. It is likely he is the Hugh McKERREL SMITH born in Blytheswood. Birth certificate is on Scotlandspeople.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

 

 

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Hello again,

 

thanks to all who have gave their time in helping our search for our grandfathers service in WW1. The pointers enabled us to find out more info. 

We have found out he received a wound stripe, report date 27th April 1918 and also Incident Details  War Office Daily List No 5551. Archive Reference  NLS 1918_WList39. Does anyone know if this refers to archive document held at Kew?  

Can anyone explain how he moved from Lovat Scouts to Cameron Highlanders to Gordon Highlanders in such a short period of time. We know he wasn't engaged in the theatre of war before August 1915.

Any further insight would be much appreciated.

Best regards

 

Graham 

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Graham,

  The War Office Daily List may be this one, from the National Library of Scotland. https://digital.nls.uk/british-military-lists/archive/194154010

 

  Also, this page from The Long Long Trail regarding 1/1 Lovat Scouts may be of interest for September 1916. http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-british-yeomanry-regiments-of-1914-1918/1st-lovats-scouts-yeomanry/

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

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Alf, this is amazing, what a fantastic piece of info, can't thank you enough. To knowing so little to so much in a short period of time is so gratifying. 

 

The search continues!!

 

Best wishes

 

Graham

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