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Private Robert Whitehead 241406 2/4th KOYLI


carlosrocha

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Hi Trying to find some additional info on the above person.

 

Robert transferred to the Labour Corp at some point and was assigned the service number 565798.  I'm trying to ascertain when he joined the KOYLI and when he transferred to the Labour Corps.

 

Robert survived and was discharged on 13/1/1920.

 

I've tried finding a service record with numbers near to Robert's KOYLI and Labour Corps numbers but no joy.

 

Thanks in advance

Carlos

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Hello Carlos

 

Found him!! 

He is in the UK, WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920 as Robert Whitehall

Due to someones possible transcribing error with his name I think and also this ledger index card

Name:

Robt Whitehall

Rank:

Pte

Record Type:

Disability

Residence Place:

Kingsley nr Wakefield

Military Service Region:

North East, England

Service Number:

565798

Corps, Regiment or Unit:

Labour

Service Branch:

Military (Army)

Title:

PRC Ledgers

Description:

Pension Record Ledger

Reference Number:

26869/, 4/MW/8206

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
 

 

 

 
   

 

   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
 

 

 

 

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All the records refer to Whitehall. It is noted that fmp have a scrap of York Record Office listing undated. Shows 241406 had “Neurast”. The rest of the page is missing. So that will be “Neurasthenia”. This may well refer to shell shock.

He also appears on a War Office wounded list on 3/11/1917 while still with KOYLI. Home town Kingsley. 
Whether the 2 records refer to the same thing it is impossible to say. A move to the Labour Corps would often be a medical downgrading - a man no longer considered fit for front line service. 
His Pension Ledger Card confirms Kingsley, Wakefield. It shows he suffered from shell shock. No other useful info.

This is him in 1911 Here. Same address as on pension card

1939 list has a likely candidate born 3/1/1897. Possibly dies 1967 still living in same area. 

 

Edited by Mark1959
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Hi Carlos,

 

22 hours ago, carlosrocha said:

I've tried finding a service record with numbers near to Robert's KOYLI and Labour Corps numbers but no joy

 

Looking at his 565798 Labour Corps number:

 

565791 Smith - transferred to Labour Corps 15.7.1918, and posted to 69 PoW Company

565794 Stubbington - transferred to Labour Corps 15.7.1918, and posted to 69 PoW Company

565795 Syer - transferred to Labour Corps 15.7.1918, and posted to 69 PoW Company

565798

565803 Wall - transferred to Labour Corps 15.7.1918, and posted to 65 PoW Company

 

His 241406 KOYLI number is associated with the 1917 TF renumber block allocated to the line units of 5/KOYLI (LLT link). It seems very common that new 6 digit service numbers were issued sequentially based on previous (often 4 digit) numbers. On the medal rolls, as a previous shorter service number isn't shown, it would seem to imply that Robert didn't serve overseas until after he was renumbered. It is dangerous to make an inference on the basis of a sample size of just one, but 2575/241403 enlisted/was 'embodied' to the 2/5 Bn on 26.1.1915.

 

Regards

Chris

 

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