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Jayuubee

I'm searching for any details on the following brothers

Harold Braybrook My Granddad Wounded and lost his leg (known as "Ladders" due to being on crutches!

Francis Braybrook Died 23 Oct 1916

EW Braybrook Died 06 Jan 1917

Noel Braybrok no detail

 

I've done the usual searches ie CWGC, Unit museums etc but losing 60% of WW! records in WW2 isn't helping as I'm coming to a lot of dead ends! any advice or help would be great thanks

JWB

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Jayuubee

This is as much as I know on the brothers! With little more detail.

BRAYBROOK Brothers.pdf

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Mark1959

Welcome

Noel has some surviving papers. 1/4 Lincs. Territorial enlisted in 1913. To France March 1915. Bad thigh wound 6 Jan 1917 - same day as EW's death. Previously wounded Oct 1915. On FMP see

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWO363-4%2F007287391%2F00446&parentid=GBM%2FWO363-4%2F7287391%2F28%2F446

1881 later 202212. Address on discharge was 7 Stanley St.

On ancestry

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=1219&h=58676&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=iSJ8&_phstart=successSource

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Mark1959

Harold 

4965 Lincs

27120 Royal Warwicks

At time according to medal roll. 1/4 Lincs, 2 Warwicks, 14th then 2nd again and then 10th.

Taken prisoner at Bapaume 24/3/18 whilst with 10th Warwicks

https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/List/4729596/698/36485/

Red Cross record. the "schussfraktur" means Gunshot fracture "obershenkel" is thigh. So one assumes his leg was amputated by the Germans. 

He had a previous wounding with 2nd Warwicks in early Oct 1917. Shrapnel wound knee and hand. Admitted 11 Casualty Clearing Station on 8/10/17. The 11 CCS admission states 2 year service and 16 months in field force - so went overseas mid-1916 and service began late 1915

There is also a pension card for him. This shows discharged due to GSW Left Thigh amputated and otitis media. Discharged 9/1/20.

He appears on a war office list on 6/1/19 as a POW returned from Germany. So would have come home in the days proceeding that

Will look further tomorrow to see if there is anything more I can find on the brothers

 

 

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Mark1959

Think you might be missing George Edward. Born 1888. Think he is Rifle Brigade and also a POW. Hopefully confirm tomorrow.

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Mark1959

George Edward like Ernest William was born in Melton Mowbray

He is with the family in 1891 and 1901 censuses. 

In 1911 it looks as if he is the George living as a boarder in Kingston-Upon-Thames. He is a draper's assistant. His surname shows with an e at the end but he did not fill the return

There is mail order clerk (drapery) George E living in Ealing in 1939. Dob 23/2/1888, That leads me to a death in 1980 in 2nd Quarter of 1980 of man with right name and DoB. Died aged 92

Then looked at military records and 2 Red Cross records popped up

https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/List/3136968/698/18146/

https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/List/3136968/698/19446/

These are for 1761 George Braybrook serving with C Company, 10th Battalion Rifle Brigade and tells us this man was born Melton 23/2/1888 and the NoK were in Stamford. He was taaken prisoner at Cambrai on 30/11/17, At one stage he was at the POW Camp at Dulmen

The medal roll shows he served with 16th RB before the 10th. He has the British War and Victory medal only and this tells us he did not serve abroad pre the start of 1916. It gives his number as P/1761

He too was wounded. He was admitted to 11th Casualty Clearing Sation on 3/9/16 suffering from a gunshot wound to his right leg. At thiis time he was with the 16th Battalion Rifle Brigade. This transcribed record usefully says he had seved for 1 year and been overseas 6 months. So served from the later half of 1915 and was overseas from Feb-March 1916 if that is correct. The longlongtrail the mother site for the GWF shows the 16th landed at Le Havre on 8/3/16. SO fits in perfectly with the medical record. Most POWs returned between Nov 1918 and Jan 1919/ 

He appears on a War Office missing list on 18/1/18. NoK address is Stamford.

So one to add to your list .. a definite brother. 

 

 

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Francis

Has surviving service papers. Start on ancestry here

Shows he enlisted in 2/4 Lincs (Territorials) on 11/11/14. This seems to be at or near his 18th brithday. Number 3304. In UK he was in 2/4 and then 1/4 Lincs. He gets transferrred to the King Own Royal Lancasters as 27217 on going to France. Arrives France 4/9/16. Joins C company 1st Battalion on 22/9/16. He is reported wounded and missing on 23/10/1916 and presumed dead. 

Looking at the War Diary it is noted that 370 men from the Lincs arrived on 22/9/16. So he was part of a large draft being transferred to 1st KORL. They moved to the front on the Somme in the days following. There were several small actions from 10/10/16. The 1st were part of an attack near Lesboeufs (South of Bapaume) on the Somme on 23/10/16. The attack wwas delayed due to fog and they went over the top at 1430. The diary describes heavy machine gun fire from the Germans. It is mentioned in his docs that he joined C company. They led the assault with D with A and B following on 10 minutes later

At the start of the assault the unit numbered 11 officers and 435 other ranks.

By the end of the day 4 officers had been killed and 2 wounded. Of the men 26 killed, 118 wounded and 43 missing. Francis would be in one of the latter two totals. 

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The War Diary for 1/4th Lincs for 6/1/17 is very interesting as it records only one incident where there were casualties

They were in the trenches at Fonquevillers (north of Beaumont Hamel on the Somme). The entry states

"The battallion relieved the 5 Lincs in Y1 sector. At 11am as No 3 platoon was proceeding up CRAWL BOYS AVENUE a 77mm shell hit the side of the trench and killed 3 men also wounding 7 O. ranks (other ranks)" 

So Ernest was killed and Noel wounded on 6/1/17 whilst both were with the battalion. This is the only incident worthy of mention on the day. The obvious conclusion is the boys were with each other and this was the incident that killed one and wounded the other, 

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Mark1959

Awaiting feedback from poster before researching further

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WhiteStarLine

Mark has certainly done a lot of research on this and I'm sure the OP will return shortly.  Rat's Alley has a "Crawl Boys Lane" near Fonquevillers, in the area denoted by a square:

On 03/02/2020 at 02:58, Mark1959 said:

No 3 platoon was proceeding up CRAWL BOYS AVENUE

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Spectrum Trench is north of Lesboeufs in the 34.b square:

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Looking at CWGC there were only 3 Lincs Regiment men killed on 6/1/17 - all 1/4th men. EW Braybook, Albert Cash and Harry Enderby. Matches the number killed referred to in the war diary. So I think these were the 3 men killed by the 77mm shell. The 3 rest side by side in Foncquevillers Military Cemetery. Enderby in grave I.G.23, Braybrook I.G.24 and Cash in I.G.25. 

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Jayuubee

Mark 1959 & White Star Line, you my friends are diamonds! Thank you so very much for all your work!

 

Just so you know, I'm serving and Quartermaster at RA Barracks Woolwich, London, If your ever in the area and would like a history tour, please let me know!

 

Thanks Again JB

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Jayuubee

Gents

 

A picture of me at Ernests Grave, Sept 201966839391_10157926445308115_7381402898816565248_o_10157926445298115.jpg.a6ff1f6fe87fa8110da02641991c558e.jpg

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Mark1959

Lovely photo JB. Probably next thing to do is look at the War Diaries. Can send the links if you wish? 

They are gone but not forgotten!

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Jayuubee

You my friend are a star, Many Thanks

 

JB

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