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Lilian Dryland

Help please. Have been trying for many years to find out what you grandad did during war. I have copy of his record as follow

Impregnable boy11 aug 13 36 hours

ganges.                    Aug 13-jun14

grafton.          Boy 1  jun 14-aug 14

pembroke 1.              Aug 14-sept 14

edinburgh castle        Sep 14-dec 14

berwick                       Dec 14-nov 15

pembroke 1.                Nov 15-dec15

alyssum.       Ord sea.   Dec 15-feb 16 escort duty

wallington                    Feb 16-dec16.   Boom defence

pembroke 1.                 Dec 16-jul 17

euryalus.                       Jul 17-Oct 17

sapphire.                        Oct 17-jun 18

northbrook rnd Bombay jun18 East Indies stn

sapphire.                        Jun18-nov 18

egmont Ssv.                    Nov 18-jan 19

 

he continued in navy until 6.6.23 when he was invalided out at rn hospital Chatham. Any help greatly appreciated. Should I also go to national archives at Kew, would I find anything there. 

 

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Coldstreamer

His number should read J26316

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ARABIS

Alyssum was minesweeping Jan/Feb 1916 and was part of the 10th Sloop Flotilla based on the Humber so was not as far as I know on escort duties. Wallington was the shore base for the Humber and if you look at his service record you will see Alyssum 5/12/15 - 25/2/16 & then Wallington ["] 26/2/16 - 20/12/16. This means that he was on the accounts of Wallington but still serving in Alyssum from 26/2/16 - 20/12/16. There is nothing on his record to show that he was on boom defence, possibly you have mistaken the AB notation for boom defence? The AB is when he became an Able Seaman.

On the night of 10th/11th February 1916 Alyssum was minesweeping off Dogger Bank with three other sloops, Arabis, Buttercup, & Poppy when they were attacked by German torpedo boats resulting in the sinking of Arabis. If you Google Arabis it will give you more detail about the attack.

 

ARABIS.

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KizmeRD

From 1917 he was a seaman on two old cruisers (Euryalus & Sapphire) patrolling the Gulf of Aden - bording & inspecting merchant ships and escorting the odd convoy.

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Lilian Dryland

Thank you so much, gives me a start.

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Lilian Dryland
3 hours ago, Coldstreamer said:

His number should read J26316

You are quite right, typing error. Sorry. 

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Lawryleslie

If you have a full copy of his Service Record it may be worth you posting it as an image. We can then help you with any other information.

Also Google is your friend in trying to research each individual ship in WW1.

LL

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Lilian Dryland

Hi thank you for your post. I have googled and have pictures of the ships he was on, but I wanted to know where those ships were when he was on them and what they were doing. Printout of record is dreadful, so have typed it up myself as best I can, posted herewith. Thank you for your interest and any help you can give, 

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Coldstreamer

I think you should find info on Wikipedia easily enough

heres sapphire

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Sapphire_(1904)

 

 

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Lilian Dryland

Thank you, I have details of the ships but not what they were doing/where they were during the dates grandad was on them. That is the information I was hoping to get. 

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horatio2

Log books for some of his ships are here:-

HMS SAPPHIRE - http://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-05-HMS_Sapphire.htm

HMS NORTHBROOK  -  http://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-75-RIMS_Northbrook.htm  (but note that while borne on the books of NORTHBROOK he was actually at RN Depot Bombay (presumably awaiting passage back to SAPPHIRE).

HMS EURYALUS -  http://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-05-HMS_Euryalus.htm

HMS BERWICK  -  http://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-05-HMS_Berwick.htm

HMS EDINBURGH CASTLE -  http://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-08-HMS_Edinburgh_Castle.htm

HMS GRAFTON  -  http://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-05-HMS_Grafton.htm

 

His disciplinary record of cells and detention is pretty bad!

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Lilian Dryland

Wow so much and I have obviously not been looking in the right places, I really do thank you. 
 

yes he does seem to have been naughty, but he was born dec 1897, so he was so young.

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Lilian Dryland

Some more help please if possible. I am working my way through grandads record and on 23rd July 17 he was at Pembroke 1 which was shore base in Chatham.kent.

on 24 July he was on Euryalus but according to the log for that day it was at Port Said. 
how can this be?

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horatio2
42 minutes ago, Lilian Dryland said:

on 23rd July 17 he was at Pembroke 1 which was shore base in Chatham.kent.

on 24 July he was on Euryalus but according to the log for that day it was at Port Said. 

Beware!! The record does not show where he was "at" on any date. It actually shows in which ship he was borne for pay and admin purposes. In this case, it is likely that his final days/weeks 'on the books' of HMS PEMBROKE I (Chatham Barracks) were spent in transit to Port Said and that he actually joined that ship on 24 July.

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Lilian Dryland

Thank you, that would make more sense. Been trying to think how he could have got there overnight especially in 1917. Well now I can keep going and look at his record in a different way. So pleased I joined this forum, you have been wonderful in putting me on the right road. 

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