Carol65 Posted 20 January , 2020 Share Posted 20 January , 2020 Hello we are tracing our grandads army history as he died before we were born ,his name was Herbert butcher and he was sent to the Manchester regiment,he enlisted on 12 th July 1916 and was at Fullwood barracks at Preston.he was sent to France 6th feb 1918 .he was captured on 5th January 1919 and sent to a salt mine ,we have 3 regiment numbers for him 3464. 44678. 484862 ,can anyone help with how to trace him please x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 20 January , 2020 Share Posted 20 January , 2020 Carol Herberts Service papers are On Ancestry If not a subscriber they can be viewed in your local Library )r you can take out a fortnights free trail but don' forget to cancel before the fortnight is up Herbert was taken as a prisoner of war on the 15th April 1918 and repatriated on the 5th of January 1919 anything you don't understand on the service papers just ask away i am sure the forum pals will assist Ray and welcome to the forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8055Bell Posted 20 January , 2020 Share Posted 20 January , 2020 Hi Carol, The POW data base for the Manchesters Forum indicates Herbert was serviving with A Company of 16th Bttn and captured at St Quentin on 21st March. This would mean he was taken prisoner at the infamous Manchester Hill. You would be very welcome to ask more on the forum. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol65 Posted 20 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 20 January , 2020 (edited) We were told Herbert was a stretcher bearer and when he came home he only had 20% vision left ,he died aged 39 of menengitis .we were also told he was strapped to a cannon and it was fired because he didn’t want to carry a gun,he was very religious and my sister believes he was sent to a Siberian salt mine ,thank you for your previous messages ,if anyone else has any other information about him we would be very grateful,you have told us more today than we have discovered in a few years x Edited 20 January , 2020 by Carol65 Need to include information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 20 January , 2020 Share Posted 20 January , 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, 8055Bell said: Hi Carol, The POW data base for the Manchesters Forum indicates Herbert was serviving with A Company of 16th Bttn and captured at St Quentin on 21st March. This would mean he was taken prisoner at the infamous Manchester Hill. You would be very welcome to ask more on the forum. Tim Tim is correct captured at St Quentin 21 /3/18 confirmed by his ICRC record which can be found HERE enter the Pa number shown into the box which will show further info Held at Cassel Pow camp The date 15th April 18 will be the date that the british gov were informed that he was a POW Edit From the link posted above scroll down to Manchester's and click find his entry then enter the Pa number from his ICRC card Edited 20 January , 2020 by RaySearching adding info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 20 January , 2020 Share Posted 20 January , 2020 The list from 20.05.1918 shows he was transferred from Cassel to Hameln, not that he was being held at Cassel. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol65 Posted 21 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 21 January , 2020 Thank you so much ,we are gaining so much information from everyone,can’t tell you how much it means to us sisters as we never met him but miss him x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin spof Posted 22 January , 2020 Admin Share Posted 22 January , 2020 Hi @Carol65 and welcome to the Forum. I have edited the title of your post and moved it to the Soldiers and their Units form for greater visibility. Glen GWF Admin Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol65 Posted 22 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 22 January , 2020 does anyone know the names of any French pow ww1 camps in france that sent prisoners to work in salt mines please x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 22 January , 2020 Admin Share Posted 22 January , 2020 I've merged this with your existing thread to avoid confusion and repetition of answers. Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 22 January , 2020 Share Posted 22 January , 2020 Carol, I‘m not sure where French PoW camps come into it, he was held prisoner by the Germans in Germany. Are you confusing Cassel in France with Kassel in Germany which spelled Cassel till the 1920s. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol65 Posted 22 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 22 January , 2020 I found a piece of info that said the 16th batallion were held at metz which was in Strasbourg,lazarett saint clement so I wondered if there were any salt mines near as we know he was sent to work in them,ive been informed he was sent to cassel then Hameln and the only thing I can find is a pow camp for xv1 army corps is the French one x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrewer Posted 22 January , 2020 Share Posted 22 January , 2020 (edited) A couple of bits you may find interesting from the British Newspaper Archive. Edited 22 January , 2020 by sadbrewer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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