stuannmc Posted 22 January , 2020 Share Posted 22 January , 2020 Hi, I am hoping someone maybe able to help me... I am researching my Great Uncle, Harry Thompson, service no: 56108, 8th West Yorkshire Regt . I have a postcard that he sent his family from Lamsdorf (Germany)POW camp December 1918. He was released from the camp January 1919. I am trying to ascertain his movements leading up to his time in the camp, but am having difficulty finding any information regarding his service. I would be grateful if anyone has any information regarding the 8th Battalion and the possible movements leading up to these dates. Many thanks, Ann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 22 January , 2020 Share Posted 22 January , 2020 FWR has three records one reports him missing on 18/11/18 and another says his release date was 31/01/19 as POW. https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/records/14301224/private-harry-thompson-west-yorkshire-regiment/ George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 22 January , 2020 Share Posted 22 January , 2020 And Ancestry has his Medal Roll https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/5119/41629_626640_11603-00022?pid=3349128&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D5119%26h%3D3349128%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DJrD2446%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=JrD2446&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuannmc Posted 22 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 22 January , 2020 Thankyou for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 22 January , 2020 Share Posted 22 January , 2020 (edited) He enlisted 15-4-18 and discharged due to wounds 29-4-19 Silver War Badge on Ancestry https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/2456/wo329_3149-00162?pid=575064&treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=JrD2447&_phstart=successSource Medal Index Card here https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1262/30850_A001546-01674?pid=4959926&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1262%26h%3D4959926%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DJrD2448%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=JrD2448&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true George Edited 22 January , 2020 by George Rayner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuannmc Posted 25 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 25 January , 2020 (edited) Thankyou for your help. I have found a record for when he joined the A.S.C, 7 Jan 1916 until 24 July 1916 . But I cannot find his record of service for the West York Regt. which he joined 15 April 1918(according to the MIC). I only have access to Ancestry and Find my Past and cannot seem to find his service record for the WYR. Any suggestions as to where I may find this record? Thanks !! Edited 27 January , 2020 by stuannmc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrewer Posted 25 January , 2020 Share Posted 25 January , 2020 Where exactly did he and his family live?...sometimes street names, villages or district can help turn up facts....never guaranteed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 25 January , 2020 Share Posted 25 January , 2020 6 hours ago, stuannmc said: Thankyou for your help. Although I am now a little confused....I have found a record for when he joined the A.S.C, 7 Jan 1916 until 24 July 1916 . But I cannot find his record of service for the West York Regt. which he joined 15 April 1918(according to the MIC). I only have access to Ancestry and Find my Past and cannot seem to find his service record for the WYR. Any suggestions as to where I may find this record? Thanks !! There's a significant chance that the other record no longer exists - if it's not on Ancestry or FMP then you can be pretty certain this is the case here. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 25 January , 2020 Share Posted 25 January , 2020 (edited) He is recorded on the ICRC Record (46108 should be 56108) under Limburg It tells you he was taken Cambrai 27/9/18 with C Company of 8th West Yorks. various wounds Charlie Several others of the 8th W Yorks were taken Cambrai that day, incl: (source ICRC) Cyril Full 201985 C Coy wounded (a second record says taken Marcoyne and to the Lazerette at Coln) Leonard Hardy 60725 B Coy wounded Willie Helliwell 235782 A Coy and a Lt Robert Lacey Aubrey Tingle, 8th West Yorks, taken Marconig 27/9/18 (formerly Pte 28807, comm 28/5/18) Edited 25 January , 2020 by charlie962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuannmc Posted 26 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 26 January , 2020 17 hours ago, sadbrewer said: Where exactly did he and his family live?...sometimes street names, villages or district can help turn up facts....never guaranteed though. Hi, He lived at 105 Jack lane,Leeds. 14 hours ago, charlie962 said: He is recorded on the ICRC Record (46108 should be 56108) under Limburg It tells you he was taken Cambrai 27/9/18 with C Company of 8th West Yorks. various wounds Charlie Several others of the 8th W Yorks were taken Cambrai that day, incl: (source ICRC) Cyril Full 201985 C Coy wounded (a second record says taken Marcoyne and to the Lazerette at Coln) Leonard Hardy 60725 B Coy wounded Willie Helliwell 235782 A Coy and a Lt Robert Lacey Aubrey Tingle, 8th West Yorks, taken Marconig 27/9/18 (formerly Pte 28807, comm 28/5/18) That is fantastic!! Thankyou so much!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 26 January , 2020 Share Posted 26 January , 2020 The War Diary for the attack launched 27/9/18 is here on Ancestry and there's lots of detail to read! Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 26 January , 2020 Share Posted 26 January , 2020 This extract courtesy Ancestry may well refer to B and C Coys given that they got the majority of immediate MMs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuannmc Posted 27 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 27 January , 2020 Thankyou so much for all you help. I really appreciate it, such interesting reading. You have helped me fill in some gaps with my family research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuannmc Posted 27 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 27 January , 2020 The postcard I have that Harry sent his family was from Lamsdorf camp, December 1918, but the ICRC record says Limburg. Would I be correct in thinking that he was transferred from Limburg to Lamsdorf? Was it common to move the prisoners around? Thanks again, appreciate everyones input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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charlie962 Posted 27 January , 2020 Share Posted 27 January , 2020 (edited) I think that Limburg was, as well as an actual camp, used as an administrative and clearing centre ? There are a number of threads on these camps if you search the forum for Limburg or Lamsdorf; This forum pal might be able to help ? @charlie2 Edited 27 January , 2020 by charlie962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 27 January , 2020 Share Posted 27 January , 2020 (edited) As Charlie 962 has correctly said Limburg was a PoW Camp and an admin centre. Prisoners had to be registered somewhere and Limburg was one of the places that PoWs were registered before they were assigned to a permanent camp, usually as they were being either treated in hospital or being used as forced labour behind the lines. In this soldiers case, judging by his condition and the date of the list, I am pretty sure he was in hospital at the time the list was drawn up and was later transferred to Lamsdorf. My thinking is confirmed by others on the list that are recorded as having no known permanent camp (Stlgr unbekannt) or are recorded as being from various other permanent camps (eg Stlgr Friedrichsfeld) Scroll up to PA40309 and you will see what I mean. In case you are wondering, he was wounded by shell fragments/Schrapnell to his left and right upper arms and head. Charlie2 Edited 27 January , 2020 by charlie2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 27 January , 2020 Share Posted 27 January , 2020 thanks for prompt response charlie2. Looking at the other West Yorks that I noted taken that day, they were all wounded (which is one of the comments made in the War Diary) and some have a subsequent sheet that shows they went to other camps. The absence of a second sheet is probably just admin muddle. eg Helliwell- on PA40310 for Limburg then on PA42006 for Stargard dated 22/11/18 Charlie (962) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuannmc Posted 28 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 28 January , 2020 Thankyou both! Such interesting information. I am really grateful for your input and help with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrewer Posted 28 January , 2020 Share Posted 28 January , 2020 He is shown as missing in the casualty list of Nov 26th 1918. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuannmc Posted 29 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 29 January , 2020 Thanks, I appreciate it. I now have a good picture of what happened . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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