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Brian O'Brien

I am researching my Gt Grandfather and his Regiment 9th Royal Scots who were in Selkirk in 1915 His name was 2787 Private EJ Ramsbottom and he was from Oldham in Manchester. I am keen to find out how someone from England would be in the Royal Scots in Selkirk?. He met my Grandmother in Selkirk and returned from WW1 and married her before emigrating to  NZ with my Mother in the 1920s. I have some photographs of Selkirk which I will scan and post. I understand there is a book written about the Dandy Ninths.

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Neill Gilhooley

Morning Brian,

I think you were on this topic some years back?

In my index of personnel I have:

In the Enlistment Book at Edinburgh Castle 

EB1-R

 

Originally G Company

In the second draft from 2/9th Royal Scots (Reserve) to 1/9th RS leaving Kilmarnock 30.1.15

 

2787 would have him attesting on either 12 or 13 November 1914. The Ninth had a recruiting party in Manchester at this time and a whole company was raised there. The bulk of them went to Edinburgh on a special train on 14 November. I've a little on the subject in my book:

https://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/A-History-of-the-9th-Highlanders-Royal-Scots-Hardback/p/16873

 

I would like to hear more though...! 

 

Neill

Index at https://neillgilhooley.com/9th-royal-scots/index/

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Neill Gilhooley

Ah, I've had more of a look on Ancestry, but you probably know this:

If the KRRC Pension Record is indeed his, joined Manchester 10.8.14, character good, unlikely to become efficient (not misconduct), discharged 18.9.14 (40 days)

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Joined 9th Royal Scots 12/13 November 1914

Went to France with the 1/9th Royal Scots 24.2.15 (an 'original' aboard SS Inventor)

Transferred to 16 HLI (the medal roll has at least a page of men transferred between these two battalions)

Subsequently 18 HLI, 12 HLI, 15 HLI 

Demob 11.3.19

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Brian O'Brien

Hello Neill, Many thanks for your prompt reply and you are correct I did post earlier but had forgotten about this (age related). Thank you so much for the update information and you will be pleased to know that I had ordered a copy of your book before I posted the original query. Look forward to our rural mailman next week.

I did make one mistake, EJ Ramsbottom was my Grandfather,, not Gt Grandfather and I enjoyed many of his stories about WW1, although much of it was quite horrific in the detail. I believe he received a gunshot wound and was sent to Hemingford Hospital and had further service at Mons after recovery. I have a German Mark he inscribed MONS 1917 and his money belt, also his cap badge ( his kilt and Glengarry have long gone). I have some photos that I will post, mainly in Selkirk, but as we are celebrating our 40th Wedding Anniversary and my attention is required elsewhere. Thanks again!

Slainte'

Brian O'Brien

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Neill Gilhooley

Congratulations on the wedding anniversary, after 100+ years I think the Selkirk photos can wait a few months!

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Brian O'Brien

Hello Neill, I have assembled a number of photos although I cannot guarantee where they were taken, (some of the pencil writing has faded completely) and except for Grandad EJ Ramsbottom, I have no idea of the others in the photos. Is there a correct procedure for posting these and perhaps I should include a list of each one with the info I have?

Anniversary went well thank you 

Slainte'

Brian O'Brien

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Neill Gilhooley

I won't be alone in looking forward to seeing them, and you could always include the backs. I doubt anyone would say there is a procedure.

Neill

(Wonderful bit of 'slow TV' on the Beeb last night of New Zealand https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000dl2m)

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Neill Gilhooley

Photographs courtesy of Brian... click for full size:

780464128_ejrselkirkhorsegrey.jpg.4f6faeb6c2d88c0377f2dd5125e1dbb6.jpg1mark2b.jpg.29ca88d734a58d18070797cc2a6f4ded.jpgbadge.jpg.00b44522683e0d3eebab528f616b9e3d.jpg196280583_EJR1916.jpg.ab37fc1f66c35c9dff5be2e47f568105.jpg1810299410_EJRMilitaryHospital.jpg.5730517f42cb8a6d7f1a787379feb736.jpg1568061647_EJRStudio.jpg.2bc065eddb89aa2b5dd73834d44ec0cc.jpg1102968332_ejrpals_shopping.jpg.12587e045798dae16235f950911c5079.jpgejr_selkirk_grey.jpg.d0182787176231800166f7cbfef94ff9.jpg1markb.jpg.2b89be3d3ada8fd0e8bde9b6183b2998.jpgejr_selkirk1.jpg.6692aeba0a5498135da46a7b5dae7518.jpg ejr_selkirk2_grey.jpg.da3633597f2f412885de63f29ce03686.jpgejr1915_grey.jpg.ad3acaa54809f07697db52e290021894.jpg1029320846_ejrflan1915copy.jpg.db757befa163757d37705c54063d857d.jpg243861957_malden_hospitalbblock.jpg.08af05e5615c845b5f143caedeac57d0.jpg930465887_salford_royal_hospital1918grey.jpg.11a272afc118773f02ddf36d6e8ed2ff.jpg1769162446_salford_royal_hospital1918n2grey.jpg.6e86639d41198def573bfb0c4b351d7f.jpg1291931541_ww12787.jpg.046a038cb4d9c7115fad56388eac1b8d.jpg841210168_ww2ejrnzarmy.jpg.5bc3228512612f6aad366d26e8f2797d.jpg

 

"Here is my selection of photos that I spoke about. Unfortunately I couldn't scan any of the backs as they were originally copied from my Grandmothers photo album which is no longer available. I am just happy that I grabbed the opportunity when I did!

They include the following..........

 

Eine mark front

Eine mark b rear…Marked MONS 1917

Royal Scots badge

EJR 1916 Peebles 1916…Other chap not known

EJR Military Hospital…Possibly Salford Military Hospital

EJR Selkirk horse grey…EJR on right. other soldier unknown( possibly outside St Marys Church..since demolished)

EJR Studio…Also Peebles 1916

Ejr & Pals shopping…Location unknown, possibly Salford

EJR Selkirk Grey…Selkirk Date & Location in Selkirk not known

EJR Selkirk 1….Riders and child unknown

EJR Selkirk 2..EJR 3RD From right rear…Location not known

EJR 1915 Grey…Hospital not known..EJR Front row facing right

Ejrflan 1915 copy…Location not known..EJR end of row with Balmoral

Malden hospital b block…Not sure if EJR was a patient date unknown

SALFORD ROYAL HOSPITAL 1918 Grey….EJR 2nd row..2nd on Left

Salford royal hospital 1918n grey…EJR 3rd on left Front row

 

Grandad was wounded 14/05/19 lower  extremities. whatever that means ( Perhaps a foot wound?)

He was also gassed somewhere near Mons…Not sure of the date but his description of the effects were horrific ..and he always had a cough even though he was a smoker. I believe he was at HEMINGFORD HOSPITAL AT ONE STAGE, BUT CAN'T CONFIRM THIS. I believe Salford Royal Hospital was destroyed by bombing in WW2 and a large number of Nurses were killed.

When they emigrated to NZ the Family changed the name to RAMSEY  and he joined the NZ army as a Cook see photo (ww2ejr nzarmy)

and when he died in 4th Jan 1960 he was buried in the Waikumete Soldiers cemetery in Auckland under his Ramsey name see photo (ww1 2787)"

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Neill Gilhooley

I'm feeling guilty at not captioning the photos individually, so here we are again:

36993283_EJR1916.jpg.9089a9c8d8db7aa3dbb2845d3544b0c3.jpg EJR 1916 Peebles 1916…Other chap not known

1511966429_EJRMilitaryHospital.jpg.a826bb79fd6559649bce12929fc3345c.jpg EJR Military Hospital…Possibly Salford Military Hospital

1783783384_ejrselkirkhorsegrey.jpg.e5b4556c386a808754b8d7f7b391fe68.jpg EJR Selkirk horse grey…EJR on right. other soldier unknown( possibly outside St Marys Church..since demolished)

1313672164_EJRStudio.jpg.8a16f0928ed6337b7aacc20f1a5c4cad.jpg EJR Studio…Also Peebles 1916

66607547_ejrpals_shopping.jpg.88d2e86dbebf8c78f4a0b03858fa458b.jpg Ejr & Pals shopping…Location unknown, possibly Salford

ejr_selkirk_grey.jpg.7805bbb8565091a0e7be29f6d90e28c0.jpg EJR Selkirk Grey…Selkirk Date & Location in Selkirk not known

ejr_selkirk1.jpg.534f3157b8e0a92976cc375b0595e5dc.jpg EJR Selkirk 1….Riders and child unknown

ejr_selkirk2_grey.jpg.64748d2f266cc89f67aab0ea654035d1.jpg EJR Selkirk 2..EJR 3RD From right rear…Location not known

ejr1915_grey.jpg.76746642d37c5f9af2549ee2e1da0dfe.jpg EJR 1915 Grey…Hospital not known..EJR Front row facing right

2006600921_ejrflan1915copy.jpg.128adcf8ef5810b301b86b41e3f479ae.jpg Ejrflan 1915 copy…Location not known..EJR end of row with Balmoral

779389465_malden_hospitalbblock.jpg.ab15a6ca0b17c7984bc343840d09e2a5.jpg Malden hospital b block…Not sure if EJR was a patient date unknown

700095324_salford_royal_hospital1918grey.jpg.bab2057d66b2f1513513cdba669386fc.jpg SALFORD ROYAL HOSPITAL 1918 Grey….EJR 2nd row..2nd on Left

544453320_salford_royal_hospital1918n2grey.jpg.5c4e1f8ec29a7c8c2462bddddea6d777.jpg Salford royal hospital 1918n grey…EJR 3rd on left Front row

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