Lynn owen Posted 8 January , 2020 Share Posted 8 January , 2020 If a bloke was born in 1899 would he have been too young to serve even though he would be 19 when war ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf mcm Posted 8 January , 2020 Share Posted 8 January , 2020 Welcome to the forum. The minimum age for serving abroad was set at 19, but in April 1918 this was changed to 18 years and 6 months, provided the recruit had 6 months training. It would therefore depend on when in 1899 your bloke was born, assuming he didn't lie about his age. Regards, Alf McM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan24 Posted 8 January , 2020 Share Posted 8 January , 2020 24 minutes ago, Lynn owen said: If a bloke was born in 1899 would he have been too young to serve even though he would be 19 when war ended. If he was born, say 31 Dec 1899 then he would be 18 on 31 Dec 1917 and deemed to be in the Army Reserve. He almost certainly would have been called up for training shortly after his 18th Birthday unless he had some exemption. Once he had reached the age(s) given by Alf above, he would have been liable for overseas service with the BEF but may have spent the remainder of the war on Home Service. If you are enquiring about a specific person, the medal rolls will almost certainly confirm whether he had overseas service or not. It is also possible that he could have ended up in one of the young soldier battalions serving with the British Army on the Rhine (BAOR). If he went overseas after 11.11.1918 he would not have qualified for the Victory or British War medals. Regards Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 8 January , 2020 Share Posted 8 January , 2020 not to young to serve - to serve wasnt just going into theatre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn owen Posted 8 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 8 January , 2020 Hi Alf thanks. March 18th 1899. So only 15 when it broke out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 8 January , 2020 Share Posted 8 January , 2020 younger people joined up - so many factors played a part in whether someone went to war lots of factors influenced whether someone went to war or not is your question whether he went into a theatre of war or served in the forces generally ? there is plenty of examples of men of this age doing both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn owen Posted 8 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 8 January , 2020 Hi Coldstreamer he was in the same regiment as you but a general question really as to whether he would have been in the horror of conflict that was ww1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 8 January , 2020 Share Posted 8 January , 2020 who was he ? even in the UK seeing men coming home with all sorts of injuries could have been pretty horrific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn owen Posted 8 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 8 January , 2020 He was my dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_history_buff Posted 8 January , 2020 Share Posted 8 January , 2020 If I understand correctly, there ought to be a Coldstream Guards service record for your father, which would have been transferred in September 2018 to the Army Personnel Centre, Kentigern House, Glasgow. You could apply for his service record, for a small fee.https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn owen Posted 8 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 8 January , 2020 Keith_history_buff thanks for info. £30 though even for next of kin if not spouse or parent so think I will pass on that# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 8 January , 2020 Share Posted 8 January , 2020 tell me first though - I have hundreds of service papers send me a PM if you dont want to say who he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn owen Posted 8 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 8 January , 2020 (edited) Oh thanks worth a shot. William Owen born 18/3/1899 in Consett Co Durham. I don't have the full address, think it was Coldstream Guards regiment though. Edited 8 January , 2020 by Lynn owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 18 January , 2020 Share Posted 18 January , 2020 Thanks, I'll see what I can find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 18 January , 2020 Share Posted 18 January , 2020 On 08/01/2020 at 16:56, Lynn owen said: Oh thanks worth a shot. William Owen born 18/3/1899 in Consett Co Durham. I don't have the full address, think it was Coldstream Guards regiment though. My home town. What was his father's name? If Coldstreamer doesn't find anything I'll be surprised. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 18 January , 2020 Share Posted 18 January , 2020 there are 2 men called William Owen in the Coldstream Gds #5318 we can instantly rule out as the enlistment date means circa Jan 1904 #21894 is a later enlistment so would fit much better for a man born 1899 I cant add anything else sorry His papers should survive, when held at Coldstream RHQ I had pretty much a 100% find rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn owen Posted 18 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 18 January , 2020 Thanks so much for your help Coldstreamer very kind of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 18 January , 2020 Share Posted 18 January , 2020 I did try the absent sent voters roll with no joy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn owen Posted 18 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 18 January , 2020 You have tried and thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn owen Posted 18 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 18 January , 2020 6 hours ago, ss002d6252 said: My home town. What was his father's name? If Coldstreamer doesn't find anything I'll be surprised. Craig. Father's name was Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 18 January , 2020 Share Posted 18 January , 2020 12 minutes ago, Lynn owen said: Have you found them in the 1901 census ? Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn owen Posted 18 January , 2020 Author Share Posted 18 January , 2020 No didn't know they had them then! Thanks will check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 19 January , 2020 Share Posted 19 January , 2020 and older ones too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 19 January , 2020 Share Posted 19 January , 2020 11 hours ago, Lynn owen said: No didn't know they had them then! Thanks will check. I couldn't see anyone around Consett with the right family details - there was a family in Blackhill but the details didn't match Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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