seaJane Posted 5 December , 2019 Share Posted 5 December , 2019 A heads-up to anyone planning to visit this exhibition - it includes a section on Troy and the Gallipoli campaign. On till 8 March 2020. https://www.britishmuseum.org/exhibitions/troy-myth-and-reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 11 December , 2019 Share Posted 11 December , 2019 Stand in the trench Achilles Flame-capped and shout for me Saw the exhibition last Sunday morning not completely blown away by it but preferred it to the Tutankhamen at The Saatchi Gallery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 12 December , 2019 Author Share Posted 12 December , 2019 4 hours ago, ilkley remembers said: Stand in the trench Achilles Flame-capped and shout for me Exactly. I'm planning to go - really looking forward to seeing that ms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil andrade Posted 12 December , 2019 Share Posted 12 December , 2019 Well worth the visit : suggest a couple of hours. Sometimes I find fatigue sets in too quickly in these museum visits. This time my interest didn’t flag. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 12 December , 2019 Share Posted 12 December , 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, phil andrade said: Well worth the visit : suggest a couple of hours. Sometimes I find fatigue sets in too quickly in these museum visits. This time my interest didn’t flag. Phil Phil, did the exhibition make the link between the nearby fighting in 1914 and 1915 and the site of Troy? Pete. Edited 12 December , 2019 by Fattyowls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 12 December , 2019 Share Posted 12 December , 2019 By coincidence I’ve just read the following, from a February 1915 letter from Rupert Brooke to Violet Asquith: ”Oh Violet - it’s too wonderful for belief! I had not imagined Fate could be so benign. I almost suspect her ... I’m filled with confidence and glorious hopes. I’ve been looking at the maps. Do you think perhaps the fort on the Asiatic corner will want quelling, and we’ll land and come at it from behind, and they’ll make a sortie and meet us on the plains of Troy? ... Shall we have a Hospital Base (and won’t you manage it?) on Lemnos? Will Hero’s Tower crumble under the15-inch guns? Will the sea be polyphloisbic and wine-dark and unvintageable?” Quoted in Violet Bonham Carter’s ‘Winston Churchill As I Knew Him’ (1965). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkley remembers Posted 12 December , 2019 Share Posted 12 December , 2019 18 minutes ago, Uncle George said: By coincidence I’ve just read the following, from a February 1915 letter from Rupert Brooke to Violet Asquith: Interestingly the two lines of poetry quoted at the top of this thread are from Achilles in the Trench by the Patrick Shaw-Stewart who was coincidentally a friend of Brookes and who commanded the firing party at his burial in Skyros. The poem and analysis are easily found on an internet search A manuscript of the poem is included in the BM Exhibition and is, I suppose, an attempt to show how the myth/reality of the Trojan War and its portrayal in the Homers Illiad etc has influenced western civilization. Certainly, about half the exhibition is about how the story has fascinated thinkers and artists for centuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil andrade Posted 13 December , 2019 Share Posted 13 December , 2019 13 hours ago, Fattyowls said: Phil, did the exhibition make the link between the nearby fighting in 1914 and 1915 and the site of Troy? Pete. Yes it did, Pete : in one little section near the end of the exhibition there were vignettes of Gallipoli and some poems. Hector being dragged through the dust was a preponderant theme : I will refrain from topical allusions ! Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 13 December , 2019 Share Posted 13 December , 2019 Thanks to each for the last three comments; they are fascinating. Brooke has always been a rather one dimensional character for me and that adds something to my view. I'm just not sure what it is yet....... Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 16 December , 2019 Share Posted 16 December , 2019 On 13/12/2019 at 14:10, Fattyowls said: Brooke has always been a rather one dimensional character for me To add another dimension to Brooke, I recommend reading The Second I Saw You [reviews - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-3040375/A-lyrical-love-affair-secret-passion-war-poet-Rupert-Brooke-revealed-memoir-former-flame.html https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/the-second-i-saw-you-edited-by-lorna-c-beckett-book-review-dark-side-of-poet-rupert-brooke-10215655.html] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 16 December , 2019 Share Posted 16 December , 2019 Thanks Michael; much appreciated as ever. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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