sheila 13 Posted 17 November , 2019 Share Posted 17 November , 2019 (edited) Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me fill in a few blanks. My grandfather, Oswald Kinnerson, volunteered on 27th August 1915 and was placed in Notts and Derby regiment, service No 17609. He was gassed a couple of times, sent home to recover, then put back in the 6th Northumberland Fusiliers, probably on October 6th 1916 and his service not for NF were 267278, 42171 and 6/7817. Think he was wounded and sent home then and rejoined at a later date under a different service no. Anyway, the last entry I've seen for the NF war diaries is April 27th 1917 where they went by train to Mondicourt. According to ICRC, to whom I write in 2009 he was captured on 27th May 1918 in Cranne, service no at the time was 267278. Place of detention is Cassel, then it says coming from Gottingen (according to a list dated 26.06.1918) I'm trying to find war diaries from, April 27th 1917 to 27th May 1918 so I can find out where he was. Was there a big battle and he was captured then? Also trying to find out if there are any records for either or both of the POW camps, so I can trace him there. My mum always told me he worked in a salt mine, where would this have been? Would be very pleased to receive any information. A member called Kate Carr helped me a lot, years ago, but she only got up to April 27th 1917 in the war diaries before she was taken seriously ill and couldn't do anymore research. She was a fantastic help, but there a a few more gaps that I'd like to fill in. Sheila Cross Edited 18 November , 2019 by sheila 13 Mis spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWK Posted 17 November , 2019 Share Posted 17 November , 2019 Just for the record. His ICRC card https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/1367894/3/2/ He was captured (at Craonne) on his 19th birthday: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheila 13 Posted 18 November , 2019 Author Share Posted 18 November , 2019 Thank you so much, I’ve never seen the actual record before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 18 November , 2019 Share Posted 18 November , 2019 Sheila The War Diary for April appears to be missing on Ancestry but May is viewable. The 27th May was the opening day of the German offensive in the Aisne area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Battle_of_the_Aisne There are also quite a few threads here on the forum. As far as I am aware the only records for the PoW camps are those of the ICRC. It was common for PoWs to be used as labour in mines, factories, farms etc. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busterfield Posted 18 November , 2019 Share Posted 18 November , 2019 Hello, if you're struggling to find 6th Battalion NF war diaries for those dates the infantry brigade diaries may help. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14055708 The link is for 149 brigade, 6th NF for the dates 1/10/1917 to 31/7/1918 Buster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 18 November , 2019 Share Posted 18 November , 2019 (edited) You can read a lot about British POW at this link: https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/wwi-prisoners-of-war-in-germany The POW camp at Chemnitz is recorded as having sent men to work in the salt mines nearby. The British POWs there seem to have been transferred there from other camps. Edited 18 November , 2019 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheila 13 Posted 20 November , 2019 Author Share Posted 20 November , 2019 On 18/11/2019 at 07:31, charlie2 said: Sheila The War Diary for April appears to be missing on Ancestry but May is viewable. The 27th May was the opening day of the German offensive in the Aisne area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Battle_of_the_Aisne There are also quite a few threads here on the forum. As far as I am aware the only records for the PoW camps are those of the ICRC. It was common for PoWs to be used as labour in mines, factories, farms etc. Charlie Thanks Charlie, That explains why I can't get anything to do with the War Diaries for that time period, very frustrating! Sheila On 18/11/2019 at 14:49, FROGSMILE said: You can read a lot about British POW at this link: https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/wwi-prisoners-of-war-in-germany The POW camp at Chemnitz is recorded as having sent men to work in the salt mines nearby. The British POWs there seem to have been transferred there from other camps. Many thanks, that ties in with what my mum always told me about my grandfather working in the salt mines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlecR Posted 11 May , 2022 Share Posted 11 May , 2022 (edited) My Grandfather T.E Payne ( 75400) He was aged 18 and a private in the Northumberland fusiliers D coy 15th platoon. Reported missing on 27.05.1918 It wasn’t until 16.10.1918 that the Red Cross contacted the family to say that he was alive and being held at a prison camp called Heilsberg and was at Cassel before being sent to the camp. He returned home following the war and married and started a family of his own. hope this is of help to other families to build a picture of what happened and where the soldiers ended up . kind regards Alec Edited 11 May , 2022 by AlecR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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