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Neil Mackenzie

Actually it might be better to try the Pond Farm page on Facebook as it includes a booking facility.

 

https://www.facebook.com/www.depondfarm.be/

 

Neil

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Malcolm Linham

Went to Tyne Cot last September and asked one of the CWGC interns , if it was okay to climb up to and take a photograph. 

 His answer yes that is what the steps were designed for !

 

 Malcolm 

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Don Regiano
12 minutes ago, Malcolm Linham said:

Went to Tyne Cot last September and asked one of the CWGC interns , if it was okay to climb up to and take a photograph. 

 His answer yes that is what the steps were designed for !

 

 Malcolm 

 

I don't see a problem with that Malcolm.  I assume there weren't many of you and you weren't running around it shouting and screaming.  When I visited it was a lovely, sunny Sunday afternoon in a relative heatwave for February.  I got the impression it was more about "where can we take the kids for an hour or two".  We would probably go to a park or the seaside for that.  I have no problem with Neil (post #25) sitting down on the steps or, indeed, using them as a vantage point to take a photograph or two.  But my experience of Tyne Cot veered more toward it being a theme park.  Needless to say, I won't be going back there anytime soon.  Give me the solitude of the Somme - although it too has its issues at certain locations (which I also try to avoid).  Grumpy - moi?

 

Reg

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Tom Tulloch-Marshall
6 hours ago, Neil Mackenzie said:

Actually it might be better to try the Pond Farm page on Facebook as it includes a booking facility.

 

https://www.facebook.com/www.depondfarm.be/

 

Neil

 

Why is access to Pond Farm Cemetery and a "booking facility" being discussed ? The right of way to the cemetery is from the Vooilandstraat directly north of the farm and is clearly signposted. If problems are being experienced accessing this cemetery then they should be reported to the CWGC and highlighted here. Access to CWGC sites is not at the behest of landowners in France and Belgium.

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Buffnut453
10 hours ago, Tom Tulloch-Marshall said:

 

Why is access to Pond Farm Cemetery and a "booking facility" being discussed ? The right of way to the cemetery is from the Vooilandstraat directly north of the farm and is clearly signposted. If problems are being experienced accessing this cemetery then they should be reported to the CWGC and highlighted here. Access to CWGC sites is not at the behest of landowners in France and Belgium.

 

There are 2 discussions going on: one about people being rude at various cemeteries and the  other about gaining access Pond Farm Museum, which is private and requires advanced booking.

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Mark Hone

I have now contacted Stijn and arranged our October 2020 visit. I would recommend a trip to Pond Farm to anyone trying to understand the Third Ypres battlefield. 

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Buffnut453
1 minute ago, Mark Hone said:

I have now contacted Stijn and arranged our October 2020 visit. I would recommend a trip to Pond Farm to anyone trying to understand the Third Ypres battlefield. 

 

Did you use the Facebook page?  If you're booking for October, I need to get cracking if we're going in May!  

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Neil Mackenzie
1 hour ago, Mark Hone said:

I have now contacted Stijn and arranged our October 2020 visit. I would recommend a trip to Pond Farm to anyone trying to understand the Third Ypres battlefield. 

 

You won't regret it - great place to visit.

 

Neil

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Mark Hone

I contacted Stijn via the Forum, of which he is a member.

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Jaeger6
On 17/01/2020 at 17:38, Neil Mackenzie said:

So, as CWGC deliberately refuse to say whether or not it is OK for people to climb the base of the Cross of Sacrifice, we cannot say that people doing so are being disrespectful. I must admit, in smaller cemeteries, I often sit on the base of the Cross of Sacrifice, and I am sure many, many cemetery visitors do as well,

Yes, I don't have a problem with that. I think it is a good place for peaceful contemplating: to think about your lost relatives, the war in general or just where to go next.

What I don't understand is people climbing the base (or trying to get even higher) to get a better signal for their smartphone, just to tell everyone - who don't want to hear it - that they had no chance to go shopping that day (as happened to me at Tyne Cot).

Or my absolute favourite: the pupils who opened their energy drinks and started a burping challenge on top of the mass grave of the unknown soldiers at Langemark. I don't believe that this is a behaviour that the CWGC or the Volksbund would encourage.

 

Markus

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Neil Mackenzie
3 hours ago, Jaeger6 said:

Or my absolute favourite: the pupils who opened their energy drinks and started a burping challenge on top of the mass grave of the unknown soldiers at Langemark. I don't believe that this is a behaviour that the CWGC or the Volksbund would encourage.

Definately not!

Neil

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Marilyne

just coming back to the Tyne Cot discussion... a few years back I yelled at a few youths for playing around on the cross and had a discussion with their surveyor. I stand by my interpretation of the rule; there's a difference between climbing the steps in order to  take in the view accross the battlefield and playing monkey on the steps and the cross. 

 

@Jaeger6: those guys are lucky I wasn't around!! 

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Mark Hone

When I first started visiting Tyne Cot over 30 years ago I think that it was quite accepted for people to climb onto the cross to see the view etc. I can remember this happening on e.g. Holts and WFA tours and nobody batted an eyelid. However the number of visitors and the misbehaviour of some has steadily changed attitudes. We all have our horror stories but most groups in my experience act with perfect decorum. The worst behaviour I have seen at Tyne Cot was not by one of the much-lambasted school groups but by a party of young  British squaddies (not cadets) who clambered all over the cross and generally larked about without a word of admonishment from those supposedly in charge of them. It is they, like teachers in the case of school groups, who should have made clear what was appropriate behaviour in such a place. 

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