TheRecordKeeper Posted 16 October , 2019 Share Posted 16 October , 2019 I need help puzzling out these gents' names! For most of them, I have tried a various combination of feasible letters, but some of them are just eluding me. The ones with service numbers don't return names that look like the ones written. For instance, the one that looks like 'Richard Jutes' has service number listed that returns 'Judd' and the battalion is not correct. The one with H.C. Lofts lists a regiment I can't make out (looks like 5th Wireless? But nothing comes up for that in searches so maybe it's something else). I thought the last one was 'P Thompson' but now I think the first initial might be a W and the last name is not Thompson at all. Any and all insight is appreciated! Pictures below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpjpl Posted 16 October , 2019 Share Posted 16 October , 2019 24 minutes ago, TheRecordKeeper said: For instance, the one that looks like 'Richard Jutes' has service number listed that returns 'Judd' and the battalion is not correct. 17329 Pte Richard Yates, Coldstream Guards ? JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David26 Posted 16 October , 2019 Share Posted 16 October , 2019 The first one looks like A R B Livesey, but I can't see an MIC for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 16 October , 2019 Share Posted 16 October , 2019 "Blessed are the bald headed, for them there shall be no dyeing or parting". Absolutely brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorporalPunishment Posted 16 October , 2019 Share Posted 16 October , 2019 I am seeing 1. J.R.B. Livesey. 2. Gunner J.I. Davies. 3. Private Richard Julis. 4. Private S. Godfrey. 5. Fred Sayle. 6. Driver H.C. Loft. 7. Private H. Leitch. 8. ???.. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neale1961 Posted 16 October , 2019 Share Posted 16 October , 2019 (edited) Always Be, Sometimes Be sharp, Never Be flat And to flattery Be Deaf A little advice by Dr ?F ?C Lofts 5th army wireless Company? B.E. F. France Edited 17 October , 2019 by Neale1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Davies Posted 16 October , 2019 Share Posted 16 October , 2019 (edited) Last one to me reads; P Thompson 13th Btt Royal Highlanders of Canada 1st Canadian Contingent BEF France ? Edited 16 October , 2019 by Bob Davies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpjpl Posted 16 October , 2019 Share Posted 16 October , 2019 3 hours ago, helpjpl said: 17329 Pte Richard Yates, Coldstream Guards ? JP MIC and Medal Award Roll courtesy of ancestry: JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Davies Posted 16 October , 2019 Share Posted 16 October , 2019 Well, I am finding quite a lot of info on the 13th Batt Royal Highlanders of Canada but no nominal roll as yet. There is a list of casualties, including a number of Thompsons. https://archive.org/details/royalhighlanders00fethuoft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Davies Posted 16 October , 2019 Share Posted 16 October , 2019 (edited) KILLED IN ACTION OR DIED OF WOUNDS. Thompson, Pte. Engulf. Thompson, Pte. Ernest. Thompson, Corp. Fred. Thompson, Pte. James T. Thompson, Pte. Lawrence J. Thomson, Sergt. John H. Thomson, Pte. Walter. MISSING. Thompson, Pte. Archibald. HONOURS AND AWARDS Private Charles Thompson. Private Leonard Thompson. All from this link. Regards, Bob. https://archive.org/stream/royalhighlanders00fethuoft/royalhighlanders00fethuoft_djvu.txt Edited 16 October , 2019 by Bob Davies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpjpl Posted 16 October , 2019 Share Posted 16 October , 2019 148048 Driver Frederick C Lofts, Royal Engineers JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRecordKeeper Posted 17 October , 2019 Author Share Posted 17 October , 2019 18 hours ago, Bob Davies said: 13th Batt Thanks for all your research! Here's where I'm stuck with this fellow: the reason I think it's a W and not a P is because his initial looks like the way he writes his W's (circled in blue). The reason I think the first letter of his last name might be an F is because he writes his F the same way (red). I wrote out what the signature looks like to me, but what kind of a name is Fhonpon, honestly. And I think it might actually be 1/3 battalion (orange) but I'm not getting much in the way of results for that. Could also be a strange-looking 4? It could be that he just made a typographical error... 18 hours ago, helpjpl said: 148048 Driver Frederick C Lofts, Royal Engineers Hey thanks! I really appreciate the sleuthing you've done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRecordKeeper Posted 17 October , 2019 Author Share Posted 17 October , 2019 20 hours ago, Neale1961 said: Always Be, Sometimes Be sharp, Never Be flat And to flattery Be Deaf Oh thank goodness, someone who reads music! I was having the hardest time figuring out what "always sometimes never and to flattery" meant and why there was random music notation. Thank you for this, haha. Now it actually makes sense. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Davies Posted 17 October , 2019 Share Posted 17 October , 2019 Yes a letter W would fit that. My mind won't see anything but Thompson now so I will leave it for a time. Your first man , is he AIF? Also number 7does it say; "1781 Pte H Vietch A Coy 20th Australian" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRecordKeeper Posted 17 October , 2019 Author Share Posted 17 October , 2019 1 minute ago, Bob Davies said: Yes a letter W would fit that. My mind won't see anything but Thompson now so I will leave it for a time. Your first man , is he AIF? Also number 7does it say; "1781 Pte H Vietch A Coy 20th Australian" Yes, and it looks like I've found him. Last name is Livesey. He was with the Australian Field Artillery. I'll try Veitch; I hadn't considered that it might be a V. I kept trying combos with S. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 17 October , 2019 Share Posted 17 October , 2019 (edited) A quick check of the MRICs gives two possibles for J Davies, County Palatine Artillery. John Davies L/11098 and John Davies L/16346, both disembarked in France on 28/11/1915 (30 Div). I saw it as J T Davies but could not find any matches. There is a service record for 16346 which gives his address as Liscard on the Wirral but no record of hospital admissions so possibly it could be L/11098. I tried the 1911 census for Ellesmere Port but got nowhere. Brian Edited 17 October , 2019 by brianmorris547 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Davies Posted 17 October , 2019 Share Posted 17 October , 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, brianmorris547 said: A quick check of the MRICs gives two possibles for J Davies, County Palatine Artillery. John Davies L/11098 and John Davies L/16346, both disembarked in France on 28/11/1915 (30 Div). There is a service record for 16346 which gives his address as Liscard on the Wirral but no record of hospital admissions so possibly it could be L/11098. I tried the 1911 census for Ellesmere Port but got nowhere. Brian I am not familiar with "County Palatine Artillery" Brian. I read it as County Batalion Artillery. That said have you tried the Welsh forename Idwal? My thoughts here are that it is a very flowing script and the two letters (I W) may be his flourish of spelling his forename. There are a few about especially with the Welsh spelt Davies surname. Regards, Bob. Edited 17 October , 2019 by Bob Davies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 17 October , 2019 Share Posted 17 October , 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Bob Davies said: I am not familiar with "County Palatine Artillery" Brian. I read it as County Batalion Artillery. It is in fact 'County Palatine Artillery' I'm not saying it will be easy, but the Canadian War Project lists service records for around 275 W. Thompsons... Edited 17 October , 2019 by Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Davies Posted 17 October , 2019 Share Posted 17 October , 2019 (edited) I looked it up, amazing what you learn being on here :-) Thank you Dai Bach y Sowldiwr. Edited 17 October , 2019 by Bob Davies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 18 October , 2019 Share Posted 18 October , 2019 12 hours ago, Bob Davies said: I looked it up, amazing what you learn being on here :-) Thank you Dai Bach y Sowldiwr. Bob Raised locally in Lancashire by Lord Derby in 1915 with the County Palatine Royal Engineers (raised by the Manchester Recruiting Committee). Served with 30 Div. The CPRA did their training in St Annes and the CPRE in Morecambe. Dai Bach Thank you for the poster, I've not seen that before. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 18 October , 2019 Share Posted 18 October , 2019 18 minutes ago, brianmorris547 said: Thank you for the poster, I've not seen that before. Brian It's © NOTI (Nicked off the internet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Davies Posted 18 October , 2019 Share Posted 18 October , 2019 1 hour ago, brianmorris547 said: Bob Raised locally in Lancashire by Lord Derby in 1915 with the County Palatine Royal Engineers (raised by the Manchester Recruiting Committee). Served with 30 Div. The CPRA did their training in St Annes and the CPRE in Morecambe. Dai Bach Thank you for the poster, I've not seen that before. Brian Many thanks Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 18 October , 2019 Share Posted 18 October , 2019 9 hours ago, Dai Bach y Sowldiwr said: It's © NOTI (Nicked off the internet) Found it on Images for County Palatine RA. It also includes two photographs I posted on the thread I started about the CPRE in 2017. Thanks again Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackblue Posted 20 October , 2019 Share Posted 20 October , 2019 1781 PTE Edward John Howard Veitch, 20th Bn, AIF https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=4734755&isAv=N WIA, 5 Aug 16 St.James Road Auxiliary Hospital, 12 Aug 16. Rgds Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpjpl Posted 20 October , 2019 Share Posted 20 October , 2019 30 minutes ago, Blackblue said: 1781 PTE Edward John Howard Veitch, 20th Bn, AIF https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=4734755&isAv=N WIA, 5 Aug 16 St.James Road Auxiliary Hospital, 12 Aug 16. Rgds Tim See page 54: http://arc.parracity.nsw.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/World-War-One-Letters-to-home.pdf JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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