wedgemondo Posted 6 October , 2019 Share Posted 6 October , 2019 Hi. I'm new to this and have a few items that I know nothing about. One is the nice looking tin pictured below. Can anyone shed any light upon it please. It's about 95mm high. Thanks in anticipation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddell Posted 6 October , 2019 Share Posted 6 October , 2019 (edited) Welcome to the forum. It is trench art, made from an old (German) shell and a Norfolk regiment cap badge. Look up trench art or look for some old threads on here about the subject. Scott Edited 6 October , 2019 by Waddell Spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 6 October , 2019 Share Posted 6 October , 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, wedgemondo said: Hi. I'm new to this and have a few items that I know nothing about. One is the nice looking tin pictured below. Can anyone shed any light upon it please. It's about 95mm high. Thanks in anticipation Hi, Very nice. It is a trench art tobacco jar made from a pair of German shell casings that have been cut down in size. Here’s one from my collection with a Royal Fusiliers cap badge attached. Edited 6 October , 2019 by GWF1967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedgemondo Posted 6 October , 2019 Author Share Posted 6 October , 2019 Well that was quick. Thank you very much. I have a few other items that i'm hoping her indoors will let me keep. I expect i'll get away with a few small items if i choose wisely. Thanks again for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedgemondo Posted 6 October , 2019 Author Share Posted 6 October , 2019 Thanks Waddell. That's very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 9 October , 2019 Share Posted 9 October , 2019 Post #3. That's interesting trench art. I always thought that Audruicq was a huge ammo depot made up of hundreds of huts, and the site of a huge explosion when a German aircraft dropped some bombs on it. I didn't think line regiments were there at all. I'd have expected a Ordnance Corps or RASC badge with those dates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acknown Posted 9 October , 2019 Share Posted 9 October , 2019 47 minutes ago, Gunner Bailey said: I didn't think line regiments were there at all. I'd have expected a Ordnance Corps or RASC badge with those dates. GB, I had a look around the LLT, CWG website and some War Diaries. The only WW1 grave in Audruicq cemetery is a Padre. There is a Fusilier in Bayenghem-Les-Eperlecques Churchyard and a London in Bleue-Maison Military Cemetery, Eperlecques (both nearby). 2/14th (County of London) Battalion moved to France in 1918 and was at Audruicq from 01 - 07 Jul 18. 2/15th, 2/16th and 2/17th (County of London) Battalions also moved to France, arriving at Audruicq on 30 Jun but then moving on. All this is pretty tenuous evidence. It may be that the Fusilier who served there for so long was on detached duty with the AOC. I've got interested. Is there a name? Acknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 9 October , 2019 Share Posted 9 October , 2019 As far as I know Audruicq was a storage depot for Artillery Rounds. The only reason I can think of for a Regimental presence was some sort of liaison position regarding the ordering of small arms ammunition (if it was stored there) before supplies were passed to ammunition trains. I can understand regiments stopping there for say a night as it was well provided with rail links to the ports. But did not know of any transit camp there. It's not my area of knowledge so someone else on the forum may have a better theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acknown Posted 9 October , 2019 Share Posted 9 October , 2019 My error. 2/14th arrived at Audruicq, but then proceeded to billeting area Serques 27a.SE.R.7.a.6.4. Acknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 9 October , 2019 Share Posted 9 October , 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Gunner Bailey said: 3 hours ago, Gunner Bailey said: As far as I know Audruicq was a storage depot for Artillery Rounds. The only reason I can think of for a Regimental presence was some sort of liaison position regarding the ordering of small arms ammunition (if it was stored there) before supplies were passed to ammunition trains. Post #3. That's interesting trench art. I always thought that Audruicq was a huge ammo depot made up of hundreds of huts, and the site of a huge explosion when a German aircraft dropped some bombs on it. Thanks. Audruicq was a ROD Stores Depot and became the main ROD Workshop, repairing Loco's, trucks and wagons. The Tobacco Jar is made from a pair of 3in 20cwt Anti Aircraft Shell casings; used to protect against pesky German aircraft dropping bombs. 4 hours ago, Acknown said: I've got interested. Is there a name? Acknown Two names; Signed and dedicated. From. G.S. Lynde to W.G. Wolrige Gordon. Gilbert Sommerville Lynde. O.B.E. B. 1890. Educated at Sedbergh. 1906-1909 Trained at the Gorton Works of the Great Central Railway under Chief Engineer John G. Robinson. Helped to design the 1911 2-8-0 8K Class Locomotive. 1914 Enlisted 2nd Public Schools Battalion, Royal Fusiliers. Commissioned. Oct.1914 Overseas. Nov 1915. Capt. 18th Manchester Regiment. M.i.D. L.G. 18/5/17 - 1112/17 - 23/12/18. The War office seconded Sir Sam Fay, General Manager of the GCR to the Railway Executive Committee; in 1917 he became Director of Movements at The War Office, bringing with him his protégé; G.S. Lynde. GCR supplied 525 - 8K 2-8-0 locomotives for service with the ROD, renamed MM Class (Ministry of Munitions). In 1925 Lynde became Chief Engineer for Beyer Peacock (Beyer Garratt Loco's). D. 14th Aug. 1954. Walter Gordon Wolrige-Gordon. B. 29/1/1861 D. 21/6/1938. Educated. Eton. "Egyptian Expedition,1884 - Soudan. Battle of Teb (Slightly Wounded). Medal with Clasp; Bronze Star. Soudan Expedition, 1884-85. - Nile. Action of Kirbekan. 2 Clasps. Operations in Matabeleland, 1893-94. South African War, 1901-02. - Queens Medal with 5 Clasps, The War of 1914-19. - Despatches. Lond.Gaz., 15 Jun 16, 22 May 17, 18 Dec. 17 and 5 July 19. Brev. Lt. Col. O.B.E" - (Another source has MiD x5) Overseas Nov 1915. Maj. 19th Royal Fusiliers. (Disbanded 24th April 1916). 1919 Lt. Col. Black Watch. I'm guessing both Lynde and Gordon were based at Audruicq. Edited 9 October , 2019 by GWF1967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 9 October , 2019 Share Posted 9 October , 2019 On 06/10/2019 at 14:06, wedgemondo said: Apologies for hijacking your thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedgemondo Posted 19 October , 2019 Author Share Posted 19 October , 2019 No problem. It's fascinating stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedgemondo Posted 13 November , 2019 Author Share Posted 13 November , 2019 Sorry I messed up take photos. I'll try again. The base of the last piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedgemondo Posted 13 November , 2019 Author Share Posted 13 November , 2019 Another casing. Hope that's right. Finally this timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 13 November , 2019 Share Posted 13 November , 2019 23 minutes ago, wedgemondo said: Sorry I messed up take photos. I'll try again. The base of the last piece French 75mm casing. 22 minutes ago, wedgemondo said: Another casing. Hope that's right. Very nicely decorated trench art, German I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 13 November , 2019 Share Posted 13 November , 2019 23 minutes ago, wedgemondo said: Finally this timer. If you look with a magnifying glass you should find a date, model and lot number on the fuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedgemondo Posted 13 November , 2019 Author Share Posted 13 November , 2019 (edited) yes thanks. i had a clean up underneath,(the fuse obviously), and found the following: BMC 30 17 -17 On the inner ring it says : No 80 NVII NE Co Threre is also an arrow head in an oval. Edited 13 November , 2019 by wedgemondo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 13 November , 2019 Share Posted 13 November , 2019 Hi, A No.80, time and percussion fuse, made in 1917, used with the 18lb shrapnel shell. See this site, http://www.passioncompassion1418.com/decouvertes/english_fusees_collection_gb.html , your fuse is halfway down the page. Forum member "14276265" gives BMC as British Munitions Company of Montreal, Canada, and that from early 1916, they assembled fuses using components from a variety of manufacturers; you may find more markings on the bottom ring of the main fuse body, below the timer ring. The arrowhead in an oval is most likely in a "C"; the Canadian acceptance mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedgemondo Posted 14 November , 2019 Author Share Posted 14 November , 2019 Thank you GWF1967. That's great info. This is where I got the markings from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 15 November , 2019 Share Posted 15 November , 2019 On 14/11/2019 at 11:44, wedgemondo said: Thank you GWF1967. That's great info. This is where I got the markings from Nice clean markings. Component/s made by NE Co. assembled by BMC. Here’s an example from my collection with BMC mark in the same place, it also has marks for two different manufacturers and a Canadian acceptance mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedgemondo Posted 27 November , 2019 Author Share Posted 27 November , 2019 this is so interesting. i'm hoarding things in the garage so her indoors doesn't call time on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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