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Helen91

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Can anyone help with this photo as well please. He is my Great Grandfather.

This is Fred King ww1  18th Hussar's  (Possibly)  I dont know any other information.

He didnt die in the war and is buried at Saltburn Cemetery 

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Welcome to the forum. It looks like Machine Gun Corps to me. 18th Hussars was a smaller, round badge.

 

Michelle 

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Do you have any other details on Fred? DOB, place of birth, marriage etc. 

 

There are a lot of Fred Kings in Hussars and MGC and none match the numbers listed on the card.

 

Possibly a red herring bu there is a Gilbert Rigley King 20166. Gilbert was not in the Hussars or MGC but in Middlesex Regt. He was born in Leicestershire. He ended up in the RDC as a Lance Sergeant and no overseas service so no medals.

 

I haven't found any other Kings under 20116, 13373 or 13378.

 

Good luck with your research

 

David

 

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i think he was born in 1891  Whitby

He married 1919 to louise moore in houghton lee spring

1939 he was a process chemical worker in billingham

died 26th january 1951  aged 60

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Are the numbers to do with the photographic studio? 

 

Michelle 

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The numbers at the top of the postcard

may also be red herrings

Possibly being the photographers reference marks

 

13773 King

2 at 16 ?

 

Ray

 

Edit Michelle types faster than me

 

 

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Did Frederick have another forname?

Here is one from the locality between Billingham and Saltburn

 

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any reference to the above address among family folklore

 

Edit 46 Ayresome Green Lane Middlesbrough

 

 

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I agree with Michelle that the mounted soldier in the photo is from the Machine Gun Corps and probably its cavalry branch, whose shoulder title was MGC with a separate C beneath.  Most men for that branch of the corps transferred in from the cavalry. A clincher for me is that as well as a mounted duty 03 bandolier he has a cavalry pattern sword fitted to his saddle.

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i cant read the address other than than the number. Sorry 

Have edited post 8 with address

 

 

Ray

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I think you’ve got him JP.  Certainly looks good to me.

It appears that he transferred to the MGC (C) on 17th May 1916. 

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Hi Ray
Middlesborough is half an hour from me so i think that will be him. What with him being buried in saltburn and all the areas there match up.

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31 minutes ago, helpjpl said:

1.  Ancestry has service papers for a Frederick King, born abt 1889 Durham, which shows:

11th Cavalry Reserve Regt

18 Hussars

2nd M Gun Squadron

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See 11th Reserve Regiment of Cavalry here:

https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/cavalry-regiments/the-reserve-regiments-of-cavalry/

 

JP

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12 minutes ago, Helen91 said:

Hi Ray
Middlesborough is half an hour from me so i think that will be him. What with him being buried in saltburn and all the areas there match up.

 

The chap that JP found above seems a better match, Helen, with correct name and regimental chronology.

 

From LLT

18th (Queen Mary’s Own) Hussars
August 1914 : at Tidworth, part of 2nd Cavalry Brigade in Cavalry Division.
Moved to France and landed at Boulogne 16 August 1914.
16 September 1914 : Cavalry Division renamed as 1st Cavalry Division.

 

Fred was posted to his regiment in 1915 and transferred the following year.

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15 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said:

 

The chap that JP found above seems a better match, Helen, with correct name and regimental chronology.

 

From LLT

18th (Queen Mary’s Own) Hussars
August 1914 : at Tidworth, part of 2nd Cavalry Brigade in Cavalry Division.
Moved to France and landed at Boulogne 16 August 1914.
16 September 1914 : Cavalry Division renamed as 1st Cavalry Division.

 

Fred was posted to his regiment in 1915 and transferred the following year.

Then after that hes had gone onto the  2nd M Gun Squadron

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6 minutes ago, Helen91 said:

Then after that hes had gone onto the  2nd M Gun Squadron

 

Yes, which was a unit of the Machine Gun Corps (Cavalry), whose cap badge he wears in your photograph.

 

2nd Machine Gun Squadron MGC:  formed 28 February 1916 for 2nd Cavalry Brigade in 1st Cavalry Division. Machine gun sections taken from 4th Dragoon Guards, 9th Lancers and 18th Hussars.

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27 minutes ago, Helen91 said:

 

Yes, that’s the one alright.

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I think JP has also got him 

 

All we need is confirmation that his mother was Emily King (aged 60 in 1911)

who can be found on the 1911 census residing at Hedworth Road Boldon Colliery

also residing at the address is her son Frederick King aged 20 employed as an engineman below ground

 

The details corresponding with the Service papers found by JP

 

Ray

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51 minutes ago, RaySearching said:

The family in 1889 at Newbottle Durham

 

 

Name Age
George F King 44
Emily King 41
Martha King 15
Eliza King 11
George King 7
Elizabeth King 4
Frederick King 4/12

 

 

Ray


I have no idea if it is right for his parents. Thats as far back as i got as a guess.   Which could also mean that he wasn't born in whitby.  I definatly know he married Louisa  as there both next to each other in the grave yard. Marraige record and they had Maud Hurworth  King that was my grandma. So i know all of those bits are correct.71538837_751136998667909_2777109004436897792_n.jpg.15bba7d5baaadc8bc509863f4fc03274.jpg

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