Babs 1964 Posted 17 September , 2019 Share Posted 17 September , 2019 In relation to the paschaendale battlefield , where was the cemetery constructed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay dubaya Posted 17 September , 2019 Share Posted 17 September , 2019 Welcome to the forum Babs The then IWGC list the cemetery at 28.D.17.a.00.75 which puts it around the German front line trenches at the beginning of the battle, I have marked it with a red 'X' on this barriage map here, the extent of the barriage gives some idea where the front line was at the end of the battle. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 17 September , 2019 Share Posted 17 September , 2019 As a further guide, the Cross of Sacrifice is built on top of a German pillbox, and there are two bunkers in the cemetery, each surrounded by a square of poplars. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H Posted 17 September , 2019 Share Posted 17 September , 2019 I think Babs is still searching for the "X"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 17 September , 2019 Share Posted 17 September , 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Babs 1964 said: In relation to the paschaendale battlefield , where was the cemetery constructed Hi Babs It is an interesting question and I'm spending a lot of time looking at the area on Google Maps so I had a look at various photos I have. The first is one I found on the internet (possibly on the bignote.com); it shows the view from the centre of the cemetery looking towards Passendale (as it is now). The distance is 1.3 miles to the church. The second is one I took from the same location with a bit of zoom looking back towards Ieper itself. The distance is just under five and a half miles. Pete. Edited 17 September , 2019 by Fattyowls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayessex Posted 17 September , 2019 Share Posted 17 September , 2019 How's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 17 September , 2019 Share Posted 17 September , 2019 Plum lbw Ray, no need for the square in the air on that one, the square on the map does the trick. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayessex Posted 17 September , 2019 Share Posted 17 September , 2019 (edited) Or! Edited 17 September , 2019 by Rayessex Repitition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayessex Posted 17 September , 2019 Share Posted 17 September , 2019 Curiously it seem to show at least six Pill Boxes within the grounds of what is now the cemetery. Of the three nearest the road, it looks like the centre one has been totally demolished and would have been where the path is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay dubaya Posted 17 September , 2019 Share Posted 17 September , 2019 59 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: Plum lbw Ray, no need for the square in the air on that one, the square on the map does the trick. apart from it doesn't show the cemetery in relation to the Passchendaele battlefield J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayessex Posted 17 September , 2019 Share Posted 17 September , 2019 Its Just an aid to orientation, from here Bab's may find a larger map and be able to work it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 17 September , 2019 Share Posted 17 September , 2019 27 minutes ago, jay dubaya said: apart from it doesn't show the cemetery in relation to the Passchendaele battlefield J 1 minute ago, Rayessex said: Its Just an aid to orientation, from here Bab's may find a larger map and be able to work it out. Give me a couple of minutes........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 17 September , 2019 Share Posted 17 September , 2019 (edited) This part of the Ordnance Survey produced progress map of the 1917 battle as found on Wikipedia and is public domain. I've marked the location of Tyne Cot to give an indication of where it sits in the whole scheme of things as suggested. Hope this helps Babs. Pete. Edited 17 September , 2019 by Fattyowls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayessex Posted 17 September , 2019 Share Posted 17 September , 2019 I'm sure that will help her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 18 September , 2019 Share Posted 18 September , 2019 8 hours ago, Rayessex said: Curiously it seem to show at least six Pill Boxes within the grounds of what is now the cemetery. Of the three nearest the road, it looks like the centre one has been totally demolished and would have been where the path is now. It's 5 that are/were within the cemetery grounds, the three that are visible (two between the trees, one under the cross of sacrifice and two were more or less the pagodas are at each end of the back wall). Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs 1964 Posted 18 September , 2019 Author Share Posted 18 September , 2019 Ive obviously asked an interesting question and have recieved some interesting replies. Been over to tyne cot a few times and it provoked some interesting questions....does anybody have or can point me to photos around the early 20s of the cemetery . Thanks guys 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303man Posted 18 September , 2019 Share Posted 18 September , 2019 I believe there is also area in Tyne Cot with no graves because of a concrete structure underneath. It may be the bit in front of the right hand bunker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayessex Posted 18 September , 2019 Share Posted 18 September , 2019 26 minutes ago, 303man said: I believe there is also area in Tyne Cot with no graves because of a concrete structure underneath. It may be the bit in front of the right hand bunker? 13 hours ago, AOK4 said: It's 5 that are/were within the cemetery grounds, the three that are visible (two between the trees, one under the cross of sacrifice and two were more or less the pagodas are at each end of the back wall). Jan Thats what I always thought, but clearly six marked on map, Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayessex Posted 18 September , 2019 Share Posted 18 September , 2019 Sorry still working my way through this, reply in wrong place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayessex Posted 18 September , 2019 Share Posted 18 September , 2019 Never knew that either 303man. very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug504 Posted 18 September , 2019 Share Posted 18 September , 2019 2 hours ago, Babs 1964 said: Ive obviously asked an interesting question and have recieved some interesting replies. Been over to tyne cot a few times and it provoked some interesting questions....does anybody have or can point me to photos around the early 20s of the cemetery . Thanks guys 👍 You can find some photographs in both photograph albums in the CWGC archives here, http://archive.cwgc.org/Overview.aspx However, if you do a Google image search you’ll get lots of results. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs 1964 Posted 18 September , 2019 Author Share Posted 18 September , 2019 6 minutes ago, Doug504 said: You can find some photographs in both photograph albums in the CWGC archives here, http://archive.cwgc.org/Overview.aspx However, if you do a Google image search you’ll get lots of results. Doug Wow.....thanks for all your help and very knowledgable posts. Its really kind the knowledge that has been made available..i really need to return there and look through my enlightened eyes. Babs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs 1964 Posted 19 September , 2019 Author Share Posted 19 September , 2019 On 17/09/2019 at 14:35, jay dubaya said: Welcome to the forum Babs The then IWGC list the cemetery at 28.D.17.a.00.75 which puts it around the German front line trenches at the beginning of the battle, I have marked it with a red 'X' on this barriage map here, the extent of the barriage gives some idea where the front line was at the end of the battle. J Thankyou On 17/09/2019 at 16:02, Ron Clifton said: As a further guide, the Cross of Sacrifice is built on top of a German pillbox, and there are two bunkers in the cemetery, each surrounded by a square of poplars. Ron Thanks ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babs 1964 Posted 19 September , 2019 Author Share Posted 19 September , 2019 On 17/09/2019 at 19:29, Fattyowls said: Hi Babs It is an interesting question and I'm spending a lot of time looking at the area on Google Maps so I had a look at various photos I have. The first is one I found on the internet (possibly on the bignote.com); it shows the view from the centre of the cemetery looking towards Passendale (as it is now). The distance is 1.3 miles to the church. The second is one I took from the same location with a bit of zoom looking back towards Ieper itself. The distance is just under five and a half miles. Pete. Appreciate that peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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