Peter Bennett Posted 12 September , 2019 Share Posted 12 September , 2019 Private HOLIDAY, H Service Number 45997 Died 27/09/1918 19th Bn.Lancashire Fusiliers Buried at SCHOONSELHOF CEMETERY Location: Antwerpen, Belgium Number of casualties: 1546 Cemetery/memorial reference: Plot IIa, 31. The correct spelling of his surname is Holliday, CWGC are amending the error. Soldiers effects show he died as a POW and was probably initially buried with 17 others in Lierre German Cemetery, I have been unable to find where this cemetery was. In addition SDGW states he enlisted in Dewsbury (probably correct) but was born and resided in Inverness (which is incorrect) initially serving in the Royal Engineers number 187390 . Any help gratefully received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrewer Posted 13 September , 2019 Share Posted 13 September , 2019 (edited) The weekly casualty list published June 25th 1918 lists 45997, H Holliday, Dewsbury, as missing. He married Louisa Wakefield in the first quarter of 1916 in Dewsbury. He died of Pleurisy whilst a POW. Widows address is given as 92 Thornhill St, Boothroyd Lane, Dewsbury...that was her family home in the 1911 census. They had a daughter Annie Elizabeth born 6/6/1916 He enlisted on 10/12/15 and mobilised on 15/7/16. Edit...married Louisa on 29/1/16 Edit2...they married at Daw Green Harry was born in 1894. If the 1894 Birth date for Harry is correct...his Father was John Boyes Holliday, Mother Maybeth Farnhill. In 1911 the family lived at 76 Vulcan Road, Dewsbury...Harry was a manufacturers clerk. His father was a joiner and undertaker. A picture of Vulcan Road. https://www.dewsburyreporter.co.uk/news/the-nostalgia-column-with-margaret-watson-1-8785509 Edited 13 September , 2019 by sadbrewer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrmh Posted 13 September , 2019 Share Posted 13 September , 2019 11 hours ago, Peter Bennett said: Lierre German Cemetery Could it be Lier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 13 September , 2019 Share Posted 13 September , 2019 Hi Peter, Images sourced from the ICRC Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bennett Posted 13 September , 2019 Author Share Posted 13 September , 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, sadbrewer said: The weekly casualty list published June 25th 1918 lists 45997, H Holliday, Dewsbury, as missing. He married Louisa Wakefield in the first quarter of 1916 in Dewsbury. He died of Pleurisy whilst a POW. Widows address is given as 92 Thornhill St, Boothroyd Lane, Dewsbury...that was her family home in the 1911 census. They had a daughter Annie Elizabeth born 6/6/1916 He enlisted on 10/12/15 and mobilised on 15/7/16. Edit...married Louisa on 29/1/16 Edit2...they married at Daw Green Harry was born in 1894. If the 1894 Birth date for Harry is correct...his Father was John Boyes Holliday, Mother Maybeth Farnhill. In 1911 the family lived at 76 Vulcan Road, Dewsbury...Harry was a manufacturers clerk. His father was a joiner and undertaker. A picture of Vulcan Road. https://www.dewsburyreporter.co.uk/news/the-nostalgia-column-with-margaret-watson-1-8785509 Thanks Sadbrewer for this information Harry was born in Earlsheaton on 11th April 1893 and baptised 23rd November 1893 at St Peter's Church, Earlsheaton. His father was William Holliday, a Ginger Beer Maker and later a Carter born in Ravensthorpe in 1867 and died in 1934. His mother was Grace (nee Windle) born in Earlsheaton in 1869 and died in 1916. They were married at St. Peter’s Church on 24th December 1887. On the 1891 Census the family were living at High Street, Earlsheaton, and in 1901 & 1911 at 4, Boynton’s Yard, Beck Hill, Bridlington.In 1911 Harry was a Farm Labourer living with the Sawdon family in Langtoft near Driffield. He was married on 29th January 1916 to Louisa Wakefield (born in Dewsbury in 1895 and died in 1962) at St. John the Baptist Church, Daw Green, Dewsbury. They had a daughter, Annie Elizabeth, born 6th June 1916. Edited 13 September , 2019 by Peter Bennett typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bennett Posted 13 September , 2019 Author Share Posted 13 September , 2019 5 hours ago, clk said: Hi Peter, Images sourced from the ICRC Regards Chris Thanks Chris Wonder why I could not find him on ICRC If he was a POW at Friedrichsfeld why would he be buried in Lier which is 122 miles away, unless he was confined elsewhere and Friedrichsfeld only held the records ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 13 September , 2019 Share Posted 13 September , 2019 Hi Peter, 1 hour ago, Peter Bennett said: Wonder why I could not find him on ICRC It was filed under Halliday, rather than Holliday. 1 hour ago, Peter Bennett said: If he was a POW at Friedrichsfeld why would he be buried in Lier which is 122 miles away, unless he was confined elsewhere and Friedrichsfeld only held the records ? That seems a possibility, but I don't know how to prove it one way or another. Image sourced from archive.org Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxD Posted 13 September , 2019 Share Posted 13 September , 2019 Still seems a long way away for POWs held there to be working. There was a small cemetery there for prisoners but it doesn't have that title. https://friedrischfeldpowcamp-blog.tumblr.com/post/83201424503/zur-lage-des-kriegsgefangenenlagers-friedrichsfeld Was he and others perhaps being repatriated via Antwerp?? Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bennett Posted 16 September , 2019 Author Share Posted 16 September , 2019 On 13/09/2019 at 19:29, MaxD said: Still seems a long way away for POWs held there to be working. There was a small cemetery there for prisoners but it doesn't have that title. https://friedrischfeldpowcamp-blog.tumblr.com/post/83201424503/zur-lage-des-kriegsgefangenenlagers-friedrichsfeld Was he and others perhaps being repatriated via Antwerp?? Max Thank you Max, that is a probable reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bennett Posted 16 September , 2019 Author Share Posted 16 September , 2019 I just found this in the "Batley News" 28th December 1918 under the category "Local men not heard from since the Armistice" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn311 Posted 19 October , 2019 Share Posted 19 October , 2019 (edited) On 13/09/2019 at 00:26, Peter Bennett said: Soldiers effects show he died as a POW and was probably initially buried with 17 others in Lierre German Cemetery, I have been unable to find where this cemetery was. This cemetery in Lier (Lierre) still exists today as a Belgian military cemetery. It was laid out by the city in 1915 on the orders of the Germans and was used to bury Belgian, German and British dead who fell during the siege of Antwerp. The British graves were moved after the war to the Schoonselhof cemetery in Antwerp. The German graves wered moved in the 1950s to Vladslo and Langemark. During WW2 a number of Commonwealth casualties were added. This link shows images of the construction https://www.lier1418.be/infobord/militaire-begraafplaats Is is situated on the Mechelsesteenweg road (near no 240) in Lier. The area is blurred on Google Maps and not visible in Google streetview. Possibly due to the label 'military' ? Best regards, Bert Edited 19 October , 2019 by abn311 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bennett Posted 22 October , 2019 Author Share Posted 22 October , 2019 Thank you Bert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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