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stevebecker

Mates,

 

Sorry about this but after some discussion last night with some mates over a few cups of tea, I was left in the dark about these questions?

 

And not having read the books but saw all the movies?

 

I does deal of a type with a Great War subject which started around that time;

 

What does MI (like MI5) mean?

 

If MI5 and MI6 are Intellegence, then what are MI1 to MI4?

 

If there a MI7 or Others?

 

If 007 is one of ten with a licence to Kill. then does first start at 001 or 00"0"

 

If then is the last men 009 or 00"10"

 

IF 007 is so well known can he be upgraded to 001 or down graded to 009

 

Just for fun

 

S.B

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seaJane

MI is indeed Military Intelligence as far as I know. I'm sure I've seen MI1-4 defined somewhere, but I can't remember where (have been reminded, Ben Schott's Original Miscellany, as per this link:.   https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-82187,00.htm).

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Dave66

All these are outlined in war office lists, and the number of departments vary throughout the years...for example 1923 only shows MI 1-5 and 1941 1-14 and a couple of other departments.

 

Dave.

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MikeMeech
10 hours ago, stevebecker said:

Mates,

 

Sorry about this but after some discussion last night with some mates over a few cups of tea, I was left in the dark about these questions?

 

And not having read the books but saw all the movies?

 

I does deal of a type with a Great War subject which started around that time;

 

What does MI (like MI5) mean?

 

If MI5 and MI6 are Intellegence, then what are MI1 to MI4?

 

If there a MI7 or Others?

 

If 007 is one of ten with a licence to Kill. then does first start at 001 or 00"0"

 

If then is the last men 009 or 00"10"

 

IF 007 is so well known can he be upgraded to 001 or down graded to 009

 

Just for fun

 

S.B

Hi

The MIs as at 11 November 1918 (MO was being used in 1914) were:

MI R - Responsible for information on Russia, Siberia, Central Asia and Far East.

MI 1 - WO ciphers, PW interrogation, Cables and Wireless Telegraphy and Administration.

MI 2 - Americas, Spain, Italy, Balkans, Mid-East, Turkey and Africa.

MI 3 - Europe and Scandinavia.

MI 4 - Topographical.

MI 5 - Counter-espionage.

MI 6 - Enemy Resources, Black List and Arms Traffic.

MI 7 - Press censorship, Military Propaganda and Publicity.

MI 8 - Cable censorship.

MI 9 - Postal Censorship.

MI 10 - Foreign Military Attaches and Missions.

 

In 1940 it was the following:

MI 1 - Administration.

MI 2 - Mid-East, Scandinavia, USA, USSR, Far East, Central & South America.

MI 3 - Europe (less USSR and Baltic powers).

MI 4 - Geographical.

MI 5 - Security Intelligence.

MI 6 - Secret Intelligence.

MI 8 - Wireless intercept, Signals Security and Secret communications.

MI 9 - PW interrogation.

MI 10 - Technical Intelligence World-wide.

MI - JIC (Joint Intelligence Committee).

MI L - Liaison.

MI R - Special duties under DMI (Director of Military Intelligence).

 

Information from organisational charts contained in 'Military Intelligence - The British Story' by Peter Gudgin.

 

Mike

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Dave66

To add on from the 1940 list, August war office list 1941 shows...

MI 11....military security.

MI 12....liaison regarding censorship postal and telegraph.

MI 14....Germany and German occupied territories.

 

Going forward to the last list I have, 64, only shows...

1, 2, 3, 4, 7 (combat intelligence), 8, 10, 11 and 17 (cabinet matters affecting M.I. directorate).

 

Dave.

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stevebecker

Mates,

 

Thanks for that

 

The 007 question was for fun.

 

S.B

 

S.B

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Heid the Ba
23 hours ago, MikeMeech said:

 

MI 9 - PW interrogation.

 

One of Airey Neave's books is "Saturday at MI9" Saturday being his code name.

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healdav
On 09/09/2019 at 10:28, Heid the Ba said:

One of Airey Neave's books is "Saturday at MI9" Saturday being his code name.

And he was supporting Resistance movements, not interrogating POW.

 

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