4253 Charles Ernest Robinson King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry

[AMYKAY86]

 

CHARLES ERNEST ROBINSON

 

CHAS E ROBINSON OF King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry 

Service number	4253   THIS IS MY

2ND GREAT GRANDFATHER I KNOW FROM THE ADDRESS GIVEN AND HIS NEXT OF KIN DETAILS BUT I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M DOING AND CANT SEEM TO  FIND WHY HE WAS DISCHARGED SO EARLY AND IF HE RESERVED OR SERVED BEFORE

ON MY GREAT GRANDMOTHERS BIRTH CERTIFICATE IT STATES HE WAS A RAG GRINDER FOR THE ARMY 

 

 

HE WAS DISCHARGED DISCHARGED Para 392(iii) BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THE AMENDMENTS COULD SOMEONE EXPLAIN

[EDWARD1]

Para 392(iii) Discharged  as not likely to become an efficient soldier. There are further sub paragraphs  a) to f) giving reasons.

 

[AMYKAY86]

HOW DO I KNOW WHICH SUB PARAGRAPH I NEED TO FIND?

 

 

I FOUND IT IT IS c.c

 

Edited 30 August , 2019 by AMYKAY86

[sadbrewer]

Hi service record tells us that he was suffering from what looks like "atrophy of muscles" plus a few comments I can't quite decipher yet, but it's clear he was "unable to hold rifle"

 

Edit he is suffering with neck trouble...the cervical plexus

The cervical plexus is a plexus of the anterior rami of the first four cervical spinal nerveswhich arise from C1 to C4 cervical segment in the neck. 

Edited 30 August , 2019 by sadbrewer

[AMYKAY86]

Oh thank you so much 

i have all the records but i most certainly don't understand them LOL

 

How did he manage to  pass recruitment he didn't even last a year ?

[Ken Lees]

2 minutes ago, AMYKAY86 said:

Oh thank you so much 

i have all the records but i most certainly don't understand them LOL

 

How did he manage to  pass recruitment he didn't even last a year ?

 

One of the things basic training did was to turn unfit civilians into fit soldiers. In the vast majority of cases they succeeded, but due to his medical condition, they clearly failed in this case.

[Michelle Young]

"Atrophy of muscles supplied by right ulnar nerve due to pressure  of cervical rib(?) 5th&6th roots of cervical plexus"

 

thats the best I can do. As always with new members, it is advised that you firstly read the How to research a soldier on the Long Long Trail website before you start. This advice is written as a header to the Soldiers sub forum.

 

Michelle 

[sadbrewer]

6 minutes ago, AMYKAY86 said:

Oh thank you so much 

i have all the records but i most certainly don't understand them LOL

 

How did he manage to  pass recruitment he didn't even last a year ?

 

   Without knowing more about the ailment, perhaps it came on him after he attested, or possibly worsened in basic training.

[Ken Lees]

He had a neck/shoulder issue which would have caused weakness/numbness in his arm/hand, preventing him from using a rifle effectively. This may not have been apparent during his initial medical but would have been aggravated by the repeated carrying/using a rifle. 

[BullerTurner]

His condition may have been exacerbated by military service, or indeed the result of it.  However in answer to your question as to how he was recruited/attested? Well putting it simply there was a huge demand for manpower on the Army's part and no lesser a desire to serve on the part of many of those applying!  

 

Contemporary accounts are full of men hiding conditions by all kinds of means - ranging from standing on tip toe to make the height to memorising eye-charts.  Doctors and recruiters often connived to let borderline candidates pass in.

[sadbrewer]

16 hours ago, BullerTurner said:

His condition may have been exacerbated by military service, or indeed the result of it.  However in answer to your question as to how he was recruited/attested? Well putting it simply there was a huge demand for manpower on the Army's part and no lesser a desire to serve on the part of many of those applying!  

 

Contemporary accounts are full of men hiding conditions by all kinds of means - ranging from standing on tip toe to make the height to memorising eye-charts.  Doctors and recruiters often connived to let borderline candidates pass in.

 

Sometimes not so borderline too...my own Great Grandfather joined the RAMC in 1915 at the age of 61, the attesting Officer wrote on the form "apparent age...50"