ss002d6252 Posted 12 August , 2019 Share Posted 12 August , 2019 Havre Base Depots - July 1916 BASE HORSE TRANSPORT DEPOT Regular and Territorial Horse Transport and Supply personnel Transport and Supply Personnel HAVRE DEPOT Army Ordnance Corps Army Veterinary Corps R.G.A. BASE DEPOT Royal Garrison Artillery. R.H.& F.A. BASE DEPOT Royal Horse and Field Artillery CANADIAN BASE DEPOT All Canadians GUARDS BASE DEPOT. Grenadier Guards Coldstream Guards Scots Guards . Irish Guards. Welsh Guards. No.1 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Kings Royal Rifle Corps No.7 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT 1/1st London Regiment. 1/2nd 1/3rd 1/4th 1/5th 2/13th 2/l4th 2/l5th 2/16th 2/17th 2/18th 2/19th 2/20th 2/21st 2/22nd 2/23rd 2/24th 1st H.A.C. No.8 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT. 1/9th London Regiment. 1/12th 1/13th 1/l4th 1/15th 1/6th 1/7th 1/8th 1/15th 1/17th 1/18th 1/19th 1/20th 1/21st 1/22nd 1/23rd 1/24th 1/28th No.36 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT 1st Bn.Royal Irish Rifles. 2nd 9th 8th 10th 11th 12th 13th 14th 15th 16th 1st Bn.Royal Inniskilling Fus. 2nd 9th 11th 10th 1st Bn.Royal Irish Fusiliers. 9th No .47 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Rifle Brigade No.48 BASE DEPOT General Base Depot for 47th and 56th Divisions 1/1st Edinburgh Field Company . No. 49 BASE DEPOT General Base Depot for 49th and 60th Division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 12 August , 2019 Author Share Posted 12 August , 2019 St OMER Depots - July 1916 ST OMER DEPOT Royal Flying Corps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 12 August , 2019 Author Share Posted 12 August , 2019 ABBEVILLE Depots - July 1916 SIGNAL DEPOT All signal personnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 12 August , 2019 Author Share Posted 12 August , 2019 ETAPLES Depots - July 1916 AUSTRALIAN BASE DEPOT All Australians NEW ZEALAND BASE DEPOT All New Zealand Personnel ROYAL MARINE BASE DEPOT Royal Marine Artillery ROYAL NAVAL DIVISION BASE DEPOT Royal Naval Division. No . 9 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Lincolnshire Regiment. South Staffordshire Regiment No.12 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Leicestershire Regiment North Staffordshire Regiment No.14 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Notts & Derby Regiment No.15 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Suffolk Regiment Essex Regiment Cambridgeshire Regiment No.16 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT 2nd Bn Royal Irish Regiment. 6th 1st Bn. Royal Munster Fusiliers 2nd 8th . 9th 2nd Bn. Leinster Regiment. 7th 1st Bn Royal Dublin Fusiliers 2nd 8th 9th 6th Bn. Connaught Rangers 7th Bn Royal Irish Rifles 7th Bn Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 8th 7th Bn Royal Irish Fusiliers 8th No.17 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Norfolk Regiment Bedfordshire Regiment Northamptonshire Regiment Hertfordshire Regiment No.18 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Royal Highlanders Gordon Highlanders Seaforth Highlanders No.19 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Argyll !Sutherland Highlanders Cameron Highlanders No.20 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Royal Scots Scottish Rifles Royal Scots Fusiliers No.21 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT K.O.Scottish Borderers Highland Light Infantry No.23 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Royal Lancaster Regiment Lancashire Fusiliers No.24 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Liverpool Regiment No.25 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Border Regiment. Loyal.North Lancs. Regiment No.30 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT East Lancashire Regiment Manchester Regiment No.31 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT 1st Northumberland Fusiliers 10th 11th 12th 13th 14th 16th 17th 18th 20th 21st 22nd 23rd 24th 25th 26th 27th No.32 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT 1/4th Northumberland Fusiliers 1/5th 1/6th 1/7th 8th 9th 19th 2nd Bn. K.O. Yorkshire Light Infatry 1/4th 1/5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 12th No.33 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT West Yorkshire Regiment No.34 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT West Riding Regiment York & Lancs Regiment No.35 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Durham Light Infantry No.37 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Yorkshire Regiment East Yorkshire Regiment No.38 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Royal West Surrey Regiment East Surrey Regiment East Kent Regiment No.39 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Royal Fusiliers No.40 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Royal Sussex Regiment Royal West Kent Regiment No.41 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Middlesex Regiment No.51 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT General Base Depot for 50th and 51st Divisions MACHINE GUN CORPS BASE DEPOT Machine Gun Corps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 12 August , 2019 Author Share Posted 12 August , 2019 ROUEN Depots - July 1916 No1. BASE MECHANICAL TRANSPORT DEPOT Mechanical Transport Details No2. BASE MECHANICAL TRANSPORT DEPOT Mechanical Transport Details BASE PAY UNIT ARMY PAY CORPS No1. BASE REMOUNT DEPOT 5 Remount Squadrons & HQ unit. 3 Sections of Indian Base Remount Depot from Marseilles (Aug 1916) No.4 GENERAL BASE DEPOT All Regular Royal Engineers of :- Field Companies Army Troops Companies Tunnelling Companies Special Companies Base Park Companies Advanced Park Companies Advanced Parks Pontoon Parks Land Drainage Companies Field Squadrons Labour Bns Entrenching battalions( R. E. Personnel) Inland Water Transport Corps Pigeon Service Special Brigades Field Survey Companies (& if no special instructions have been received, Postal Section and Railway Companies ) Special Reserve Royal Engineers :- 1st Royal Anglesey Siege Company 2nd Royal Anglesey Siege Company 1st Royal Monmouth Siege Company 4th Royal Monmouth Siege Company 2nd Royal Monmouth Railway Company 3rd Royal Monmouth Railway Company 3rd Royal Anglesey Railway Company No.5 GENERAL BASE DEPOT Regular & Special reserve Cavalry and RAMC Military Mounted Police Military Foot Police Yeomanry Territorial Force No.2 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Devonshire Regiment. Duke of Cornwall's L.I. South African Regiment. No.3 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Hampshire Regiment Dorsetshire Regiment Wiltshire Regiment Somerset Light Infantry No.4 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Cheshire Regiment. Shropshire Light Infantry Monmouth Regiment No.5 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Royal Welsh Fusiliers. South Wales Borderers No.6 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT. Welsh Regiment. South Lancashire Regiment . No.29 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Royal Warwickshire Regiment . 1st & 2nd Northern Coys. NCC 1st, 2nd & 3rd Eastern Coys. NCC 1st Southern Coy. NCC 1st Western Coy. NCC 1st Scottish Coy. NCC Newfoundland Regiment Army Cyclist Corps. No.46 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT. Worcestershire Regiment. Royal Berkshire Regiment. No.55 INFANTRY BASE DEPOT Cheshire Regiment. Shropshire Light Infantry Monmouth Regiment Gloucestershire Regiment Oxford & Buckinghamshire L.I. Bucks Bns. No. 1 TERRITORIAL BASE DEPOT General Base Depot for 61st & 48th Divisions, and Reinforcements for T.F. R.A.M.C.units with Regular Divisions. No. 2 TERRITORIAL BASE DEPOT General Base Depot for 55th and 46th Divisions and Reinforcements of :- 1/1st Lowland Field Company 1st East Anglian Field Company 1st Cheshire Field Company 1/1st East Riding Field Company 1/1st Durham Field Company 1/2nd Durham Field Company 1/3rd Durham Field Company 1/1st Renfrew Field Company 1/1st Home Counties Field Company 1/2nd Home Counties Field Company 1/1st London Field Company 1/1st West Riding Field Company. 2/2nd West Riding Field Company 1/3rd Kent Field Company 1/2nd London Field Company 1st Aberdeen Army Troops Company 1/3rd Cornwall Army Troops Company . 1/2nd Cornwall Army Troops Company 1st Glamorgan Army Troops Company 1/2nd Glamorgan Army Troops Company Sussex Army Troops Company Dundee Army Troops Company Devon Army Troops Company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 13 August , 2019 Author Share Posted 13 August , 2019 BOULOGNE Depots - July 1916 No4. BASE REMOUNT DEPOT 5 Remount Squadrons & HQ unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 13 August , 2019 Author Share Posted 13 August , 2019 DIEPPE Depots - July 1916 No3. BASE REMOUNT DEPOT 6 Remount Squadrons & HQ unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 13 August , 2019 Author Share Posted 13 August , 2019 CALAIS Depots - July 1916 No5. BASE REMOUNT DEPOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 13 August , 2019 Author Share Posted 13 August , 2019 The above records are derived from the war diary of the Inspector General of communications and reflect the situation in July 1916. I will add extra information as required to the base data and try to update it. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin W Taylor Posted 13 August , 2019 Share Posted 13 August , 2019 Craig, Outstanding - many thanks for posting. There has been previous conjecture on the forum as to whether each IBD fed a specific division or some specific regiments; the above show both to be true to different degrees (e.g. Nos 16 and 36 feeding numbered divisions) but with seemingly little rhyme or reason (e.g. ACC, Warwicks and Newfoundlanders?); also duplication for several regiments and divisions. Is there mention in subsequent months whether there was any rationale as to how these IBD links changed or direction on how losses were to be replaced during the Somme where battalions were often replaced by drafts from completely different regiments? I think Dunn of the RWF saw it as a concerted attempt to break the regimental system. Very interesting Kind regards Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 13 August , 2019 Author Share Posted 13 August , 2019 No. 29 depot seems to be a dumping ground for someone's forgotten about units. It is interesting that some of the TF divisions kept their own base depots but their infantry were placed in to the infantry depots. Seems like an odd mix, especially so when there were 2 TF base depots. I suspect that the setup was tweaked over time to balance the load slightly (and possibly simply on the grounds of camp capacity).There was always a constant battle over space for camps and depots. The answer I suspect is in the earlier LoC diaries (an amazing resource in their appendices) but I haven't got the diaries for mid 1915 which would cover quite a lot of the arrival time of the units and their depots being set up - when I get the money I'll get a few of the diaries and see what they say (donations accepted). I'd actually got the diaries for another little project but this one is interesting! The diaries I have June /July /Aug 16 don't mention much about the Somme side of it except the preparation work before hand to deal with the liberated civilians that the great advance would free. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neill Gilhooley Posted 14 August , 2019 Share Posted 14 August , 2019 Yes, this is excellent work - thank you. I think this explains a lot of the transfers between certain regiments upon arrival at the IBD. - As you seem to know your way around, if I went looking for Lt Col AS Blair, commandant of Abancourt area May16 - Dec 17, where in, what looks like WO95, do you think I should take a look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 14 August , 2019 Author Share Posted 14 August , 2019 11 minutes ago, Neill Gilhooley said: Yes, this is excellent work - thank you. I think this explains a lot of the transfers between certain regiments upon arrival at the IBD. - As you seem to know your way around, if I went looking for Lt Col AS Blair, commandant of Abancourt area May16 - Dec 17, where in, what looks like WO95, do you think I should take a look? There are some base commandant diaries around, not sure which one would cover Avancourt though (or whether any relevant one still survives). Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 14 August , 2019 Share Posted 14 August , 2019 Thanks Craig I had noticed in the WD of 1/2 South Midland FC RE (475 FC) 10/10/1015 that reinforcements were received from 48 Div Base Depot and No 1 Territorial Base Depot, Madrillet Camp, Rouen. The WD of 1/2 Northumbrian FC RE (447 FC) of 50 Div 31/10/1916 also records that reinforcements were received from No 1 Territorial Base Depot, Rouen. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neill Gilhooley Posted 14 August , 2019 Share Posted 14 August , 2019 Thanks Craig. I suspect you are venturing into places that few (any?) have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 14 August , 2019 Author Share Posted 14 August , 2019 5 minutes ago, Neill Gilhooley said: Thanks Craig. I suspect you are venturing into places that few (any?) have been. I think you're probably right (I tend to stumble in to topics like this). 16 minutes ago, brianmorris547 said: Thanks Craig I had noticed in the WD of 1/2 South Midland FC RE (475 FC) 10/10/1015 that reinforcements were received from 48 Div Base Depot and No 1 Territorial Base Depot, Madrillet Camp, Rouen. The WD of 1/2 Northumbrian FC RE (447 FC) of 50 Div 31/10/1916 also records that reinforcements were received from No 1 Territorial Base Depot, Rouen. Brian The diaries I've seen so far don't go on to manpower too much when it comes to existing units but they certainly show the number of queries that came up about scraping around the bases for fit men to be weeded out and how PB men were to be utilised. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew-1918 Posted 15 August , 2019 Share Posted 15 August , 2019 Thanks for posting, Craig. This is very useful indeed. I had long wondered about these. Cheers, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie962 Posted 15 August , 2019 Share Posted 15 August , 2019 (edited) Good stuff, Craig. I have the 38 IBD Diaries and I posted some notes/queries here some 3 yrs ago (no replies!). Charlie PS Base Commandant Etaples has several threads, particularly re Mutiny. Edited 15 August , 2019 by charlie962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 30 April , 2020 Share Posted 30 April , 2020 Superb information Craig, thank you for taking the time to type it all out. Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 30 April , 2020 Author Share Posted 30 April , 2020 51 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: Superb information Craig, thank you for taking the time to type it all out. Much appreciated. I just stumbled across it in a diary I was looking through and suddenly realised I'd never seen a full list of Base Depots. It's amazing, considering how many millions went through the places, that we seem to have so little information on them. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 30 April , 2020 Share Posted 30 April , 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ss002d6252 said: I just stumbled across it in a diary I was looking through and suddenly realised I'd never seen a full list of Base Depots. It's amazing, considering how many millions went through the places, that we seem to have so little information on them. Craig Yes, I agree. It would be nice if they could be recorded in the IBD section of long long trail. Purely because it’s such a useful single resource that everyone can access quickly without having to do an internet, or forum search, and then spending ages trawling through links. Edited 30 April , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsr25 Posted 3 May , 2020 Share Posted 3 May , 2020 Hi Craig, An excellent resource you have put together. You mentioned it came from the Inspector General of communications war diary. I dont suppose you have the WO 95 reference for it? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 13 June , 2020 Share Posted 13 June , 2020 (edited) On 30/04/2020 at 19:49, ss002d6252 said: I just stumbled across it in a diary I was looking through and suddenly realised I'd never seen a full list of Base Depots. It's amazing, considering how many millions went through the places, that we seem to have so little information on them. Craig Craig, do you know what other base units there were at Calais? It’s been discussed some years back that there were workshops and other units there and I wondered if you knew of a comprehensive list. Certainly there was more than the remounts depot mentioned here. Regards, FS Edited 13 June , 2020 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 13 June , 2020 Share Posted 13 June , 2020 Do you have anything on Ostrohove , near Boulogne, Was it an IBD or just reception camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 13 June , 2020 Author Share Posted 13 June , 2020 2 hours ago, FROGSMILE said: Craig, do you know what other base units there were at Calais? It’s been discussed some years back that there were workshops and other units there and I wondered if you knew of a comprehensive list. Certainly there was more than the remounts depot mentioned here. Regards, FS I don't, this was just what was in the list in the diary. I've not seen a list of facilities - I am aware of the ASC petrol filling facilities etc etc but past that I don't know. I might give the diaries another look to see what they say. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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