Prez1981 Posted 10 August , 2019 Share Posted 10 August , 2019 Hello again. I picked this bayonet up some time ago. It’s in quite nice shape overall, but I have no idea if the bayonet knot is WWI or WWII. I assume it’s German. It’s quite dirty, but appears to have bluish color on it. I’ve tried to attach some photos. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 19 August , 2019 Share Posted 19 August , 2019 Hi, That's certainly a nice looking S.84/98 there! What you have wrapped around the frog is a Portepee. Unlike the troddel which has a fluffy tassel or quaste at the end (if you see what I mean!) and which was worn by enlisted men to indicate the company they served in, the Portepee has a closed acorn-shaped end and signified that the wearer of the bayonet was either a Unteroffizier mit Portepee or Portepeeunteroffizier, a high-ranking NCO, or an officer. That part I am sure of! Now, not my fild of study, but as I recall it, the crown above this, and the strap, have an interwoven design with a coloured thread indicating what state the person belonged to, and this looks to me as if it is Green, and so Saxon? I assume this is WW1, on account of it coming with the bayonet - but it could have been attached anytime, and they were made in WW2, but not, if I recall correctly, in State colours. There is probably a German book on these but I have never seen one... Trajan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prez1981 Posted 19 August , 2019 Author Share Posted 19 August , 2019 Thank you so much for the assistance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 20 August , 2019 Share Posted 20 August , 2019 Happy to be of some minimal help! Have a look at: http://www.bajonett.de/Troddel/troddeln_und_faustriemen.htm though, for troddels, as at the bottom there is a link to a page showin Unteroffiziertroddeln and that includes an illustration of a troddel for an Unteroffizier Oberjäger, the strap of which looks rather like yours. Greek would of course be entirely appropriate for a Jäger portepee, while green and white would be correct for Saxony... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 2 November , 2019 Share Posted 2 November , 2019 Possible bavarian portteeppe for higher ranks, WW1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 2 November , 2019 Share Posted 2 November , 2019 (edited) Would go with Bavarian, as the colors are (faded) blue and silver/white. For comparison´s sake from my collection a detail of a Bavarian TRODDEL. Note the Bavarian cockade on the hat and the Bavarian Koppelschloß/belt-buckle. GreyC Edited 2 November , 2019 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 4 November , 2019 Share Posted 4 November , 2019 Happy to be corrected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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