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PJS

I am trying to find out more information (full names would be a good start) of the following Nursing Sisters who were deployed to Mespot. in 1917-18:

 

Sister S M BONSER        - (Jun - Sept 1917)
Sister M McINTOSH        - (Jun - Jul 1917) 
Sister D HUNT                 - (Jul 17 - Mar 1918)
Sister Mrs OVER*            - (Disembarked Apr 1918)

 

* Sister OVER was actually listed as "QAIMNSI" which does not make any sense to me.

They all served on the Hospital Ship VITA during the periods marked above.

 

Any information - or ideas about where to look - would be much appreciated. I am at a dead end right now.

 

Thank You

Peter

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Terry_Reeves

Peter

 

It is Queen Alexandra's Imperial Nursing Service for India.  

 

TR

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1 hour ago, Terry_Reeves said:

Peter

 

It is Queen Alexandra's Imperial Nursing Service for India.  

 

TR

 

Terry,

 

I am aware of the Queen Alexandra's Imperial Military Nursing Service (QAIMNS) and the Queen Alexandra's Military Nursing Service for India (QAMNSI) but I've never seen QAIMNSI before.

 

Peter

 

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53 minutes ago, alf mcm said:

This may be Sister M. McIntosh, QAIMNSR and Canadian Army Medical Corps.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6273190

and

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10798023

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

 

Thank you again. I had seen the 2nd link and flagged it as a possible, but I had not seen the first link. I will spend some time trying to peer through the watermarks to see if I can find any reference to VITA in either record set.

 

Peter

 

Update: The 2nd link is not her. This nurse was serving in France during 1917.

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seaJane

"Persons mentioned" in this record include Sister Ella Over, but I haven't so far managed to trace her.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9211971

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PJS
9 minutes ago, seaJane said:

"Persons mentioned" in this record include Sister Ella Over, but I haven't so far managed to trace her.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9211971

 

This seems to be referring to a German nurse as part of a capture statement from France so it doesn't appear to fit, unfortunately.

 

Peter

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alf mcm

Not all Nurses who served in I dia belonged to QAMNSI. Those who did are mentioned in the relevant Indian Army List, but none of your names are mentioned. Later or earlier lists would need to be consulted. This one is for July 1918

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.285012/page/n1121

 

Appointments to QAMNSI are sometimes mentioned in the London Gazette.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

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15 minutes ago, PJS said:

 

This seems to be referring to a German nurse as part of a capture statement from France so it doesn't appear to fit, unfortunately.

 

Peter

Ah, ok, sorry.

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royalredcross

QAMNSI used a large number of nurses employed on short-term contracts.  For financial reasons they were not admitted to the regular service which was pensionable.  If these nurses were not listed in the Indian Army Lists, they they were almost certainly temporaries. 

Norman 

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17 minutes ago, royalredcross said:

QAMNSI used a large number of nurses employed on short-term contracts.  For financial reasons they were not admitted to the regular service which was pensionable.  If these nurses were not listed in the Indian Army Lists, they they were almost certainly temporaries. 

Norman 

 

Yes, that is correct. Below is how they are listed in the War Diary:

 

Sister Z M BONSER        - QAMNSI (R) / (Attached)
Sister M McINTOSH        - QAMNSI (T) 
Sister D HUNT                 - QAMNSI (T)
Sister Mrs OVER              - QAIMNSI (T)

 

And I can see from the link that Alf posted that Sister Zara May Bonser was originally a temp but then became permanent.

 

Zara-May-Bonser.PNG.21380ccb5f0115808c0709e56e7a67c0.PNG

 

Peter

 

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1 hour ago, alf mcm said:

 

This is Dora Emily Hunt's service records.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10805192

Regards,

 

Alf McM

 

Thank you for that but unfortunately she is not the Sister D. HUNT from the VITA.  Dora Emily Hunt served in the UK and then France and Belgium.

 

Peter

1 hour ago, alf mcm said:

 

Alf, this is excellent. Thank you.

 

Peter

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PJS

Alf,

 

Thank you but after much peering through watermarks I do not believe that Dorothy Hunt is not the correct nurse either. Dorothy Hunt served in the UK and Salonika where, as you say, she contracted malaria but she did not sign up for overseas service until 1918 and the D. Hunt I am looking for was already on-board the VITA in July 1917.

 

I do sincerely appreciate you taking the trouble to look though.

 

Peter

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alf mcm

David,

 This is the same Nurse Hunt AS mentioned above.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

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46 minutes ago, DavidOwen said:

There is a medal card for C Dorothy M Hunt who was a nurse in Salonika, not sure if she maybe you're though https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6085479 she was TFNS.

 

Thank you David. Medal Card shows that she first deployed to Salonika in 1918 but the QAMNSI(T) nurse I am looking for was already deployed on the HMHS VITA in 1917 so it can't be her. 

 

I do wonder how the Nurses I am looking for joined the QAMNSI as temps? Surely they must have already been in India which I would think should preclude any TFNS nurses from the UK being transferred. It seems to me that the TFNS nurses would have either stayed with the TFNS or perhaps transferred to QAIMNS - but I don't understand how they would transfer to QAMNSI which was run by the Indian Government.

 

Peter 

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After the war a number of QA Reserve and TFNS nurses sought employment with the Indian government on temporary basis.  During the War the Indian govt. neglected to increase its establishment of QAMNSI (pensionable) and in about 1916 advertised for around 600 nurses on 6 month contracts to meet their needs.  They also retained a number of Australian nurses which had been posted to India in places like Deolali, and also used a number of QA Reserve nurses.  They  were, to put it mildly, a most parsimonious lot !!   They would use any nurse they did not have to pay for. Even after the war, the Australian govt. had to fight to get their nurses back. 

As Mesopotamia was considered part of the Indian theatre of war, many of the temporaries were employed there as well as in India. Some of these temporaries continued in India on a succession of short term contracts until 1926 when the nursing Service for Indian Troops Hospitals was formed.  (Later renamed the Indian Military Nursing Service).  This service was pensionable so all the existing temporaries piled into it.  If you look at the Indian Army List around 1930, you will see that many of the IMNS women are given an appointment date as early as 1916, though the service was only founded in 1926.  

 

Not sure whether this is useful or not, but it is clear that some temporaries would not have met the requirements to be a QA or TFNS nurse,. 

 

Norman 

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Norman, Thank you that is useful. I will find the Indian Army Lists for 1926 - 1930 and see if any of the 3 nurses pop up.

 

Peter

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