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Just another "smelly" ol' rifle


Steve1871

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Does not have a lot of marking's to it. BSA. 1916, so saw use, most likely in the trenches. Sorry about upside down pic's

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Lovely weapon there mate. I remember my 1915 dated with mag cut off was lovely to shoot -

 

I really must get another!

 

Cheers, Daniel

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Thank's RedCoat.

It really is dark and needs a good cleaning. Do you know how late they had brass butt plates? I thought they were changed to steel at some point during the war?

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All the examples I have had always had brass, not steel. After you've cleaned it, will you put a round through it?

 

Cheers, Daniel

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Is that a * struck through after the 'III' on the wrist?

 

Were III*s ever converted back?

 

Did Mk.IIIs or III*s ever have volley sights or windage backsights?

 

I know my Mk.III* had a windage backsight, because I put it there, but I didn't think it was ever standard. Dunno.

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I am a collector at heart, but a trucker at work ( the big lorrys) I always want to shoot my rifles, but sadly, I have not shot a rifle in over / years. I have a dozen or so British, R.I.C.,  N.Z.  Metford.  L.E.

 C.L.L.E.  No.1 Mk 1...3...5. No4 .T

and earlier stuff, would like but a case of light ball ammo and do a big .303 shoot, but no have friends interested in that stuff

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Hey MikeB

thanks for your reply's, Britton dropped the volley sights to easy./ speed up mass production. Which took time, there were\ are many No.1 Mk.3 rifles up to 1915 or 1916 that still had them

rhanks afain

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Hi,

 

Interesting to see the 1916 dated example has volley sights, I didn't realise this feature had been utilised after 1914, interesting they were still manufacturing guns with that feature until 1916. 

 

looks a good honest original looking example.

 

best wishes,

 

Jim

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Thanks Jimmy9fingers1. Jim

 

I know volley sight's were phased out during the war. I guess each plant did their own thing. U have seen several 1915 with them

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On ‎19‎/‎07‎/‎2019 at 11:08, MikB said:

Is that a * struck through after the 'III' on the wrist?

 

Were III*s ever converted back?

 

Did Mk.IIIs or III*s ever have volley sights or windage backsights?

 

I know my Mk.III* had a windage backsight, because I put it there, but I didn't think it was ever standard. Dunno.

 

I have a 1916 dated Enfield made rifle with the * struck through, too. The only Mk lll feature it has is a cut-off fitted.  No windage adjustable rear sight and no provision for volley sights.  Probably in the adjustment period following the approval of the Mk lll* there would have been examples slipping through with Mk lll features.  The struck through * does intrigue me, though.

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No probs Steve 1871, everyday is a school day, this a great forum.

And 593jones that's interesting you mention, your rifle with the star struck out sounds very similar to a 1917 smle that I had. In fact it's the same spec and it always intreagued me as to why a magazine cut-off was fitted and the star crossed out. Maybe this was an inter war specification?. No doubt someone on this forum will know.

 

Regards Jim 

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It is like a treasure hunt for us collectors!I have too many post out. I need to wait awhile, but here is a very interesting/ strange marking, not sure of the bottom marking's , stars , or if first Mark on bottom is a (1) or something else ?😳 the rifle is a No.1 Mk.1

 

I wonder how many variation's there are of No1  Mk 3,  with cut off's, volley sites, rear site variations, ( India) wire wrapped with grenade cup, may be some stock variation's. I sure there are books out there, and I even have a few. But I in a truck , 18 wheeler in U.S., there is no room for me to keep a library of reference books

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An 18-wheeler! Heck! Hope that you are not "Rubber Duck"?!!! Either way, watch out for "...them smokies is thick as bugs on a bumper"...:thumbsup:

 

You'll have to get your reference library scanned and use them on the computer!

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I will be hammer down rubber necking for smokie bear as I try to eat some miles, just grabbed some " go go juice" (fuel) at a " choke-N- Puke ( truck stop) , rolling

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:thumbsup: Take care!

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