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Hi

I have purchased a P14 (FAC working) and I have some questions I hoped might be answered by someone with expert knowledge please.

My rifle is a Winchester W53611 (action and barrel) but the bolt is 34826 (no leading mark however there's a W on the underside).  The extractor is star stamped but no other part has a star stamp I can see.  The bolt also has a stamp 'M.C.5'

The wood (which is in excellent condition) looks more like M1917 but it shows no evidence of being reworked and the bottom metal is a good fit.  There's no brass disc and no evidence of there being one removed.  No volley sights.

The rifle shoots well, it has Alf. J Parker TZ sights which work well and are reasonably calibrated with modern ammo.

My questions are:

It seems like an early one - is that correct?

Why would the wood be different - could it be Weedon replacement?

Is it a "bitsa" made up from spares and if so would that be Weedon or some later gunsmith?

Any help would be a massive favour,  many thanks in anticipation.

bolt stamp.jpg

left side.jpg

right side.jpg

matching serial nos.jpg

action barrel proof and inspection.jpg

bolt lever W stamp.jpg

star stamp extractor.jpg

action proof.jpg

barrel proof.jpg

bolt lever 8 stamp.jpg

bolt proof and serial no.jpg

stock 1.jpg

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I sorry that I do not know, I have a P.17

your rifle looks Exelent . What does "FAC" mean. I know Cross' the Pond, you guy's have a lot of gun's in Non- Op. Status. Does it shoot?Hope so. A Winchester P14 bayonet in early Canvas scabbard and your British Tan canvas sling wound really make it stand out. 

Again, the condition of your rifle really looks great.

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Steve, FAC is a 'Firearms Certificate', so it seems that it is shootable! Hard also to get for a rifle... UK law is very tough on these matters. While it is legally possible to own and use a working shotgun or rifle, there are - as I understand it - different requirements to getting a FAC according to what you have. So, it seems to me that while every UK citizen has the right to own a shotgun, she/he still has to get a FAC, but it is the other way round with a rifle, you have no right to own one but have to prove the need to own one before getting a FAC. 

 

This is just my opinion by the way, as I understand it from the two of my brothers who were in the police frce, one in a rural area.

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Thank's Julian

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Hey Popsbengo

I just notic that your P.14 there was modified with a target sight, bright daylight plays with the screen on my phone. It is still a nice rifle, with those sights, most likely a British rifle club, were very popular late 1940's - 1870's or even later. You should really be hitting those target's spot on with that. Cheer's Mate

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