KENDO Posted 2 July , 2019 Share Posted 2 July , 2019 Hi all, The name of the cloth around the Wolseley helmet, is the correct term pagri or puggaree or are both words correct? Best regards, Kendo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 2 July , 2019 Share Posted 2 July , 2019 I would say that both are acceptable, being transliterations of a Hindi word, but "pagri" is the spelling which appears in official regulations. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bif Posted 2 July , 2019 Share Posted 2 July , 2019 This gets interesting. Mr Google says that PAGRI is the cloth that is applied by hand to become a turban. "He" defines PUGGAREE as: " a thin muslin scarf tied around a sun helmet so as to hang down over the wearer's neck and shield it from the sun " . That sounds more like a Havelock to me ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley John Lindsay Posted 2 July , 2019 Share Posted 2 July , 2019 Dear Kendo, We called the cloth bands around our (off topic) Australian Slouch Hats, Puggarees... Kindest regards, Kim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley John Lindsay Posted 2 July , 2019 Share Posted 2 July , 2019 Dear All, and Kendo, Here is a Cairo portrait of my late great-uncle Trooper Thomas Francis Lindsay, Australian Light Horse, KiA 14 July 1918, Palestine. The Puggaree on his Slouch Hat can be seen quite well. The "Rising Sun" Australian Military Force badge on the front is unusual (normally seen when the left brim is turned up). Kindest regards, Kim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaureenE Posted 3 July , 2019 Share Posted 3 July , 2019 They are just different spellings of the same thing. Pagri is the modern spelling, while puggaree is more 19th century, the "ee" being typical spelling for this period. Additionally you will see variations such as pugri, pagree, pagg, pagh, pagari The word originally refered to the cloth for a turban. The Hindi/Punjabi word is pagri and the Pashtu language word is lungi. In Army terminology, the term lungi was usually used for the cloth a turban was constructed from, and a pagri usually referred to the cloth which was wound around a sun helmet. However, in some contents the words lungi and pagri have the same meaning. Cheers Maureen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KENDO Posted 3 July , 2019 Author Share Posted 3 July , 2019 Dear all, thank you all with your replies, info and pics. Now I know. Best regards, Kendo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TullochArd Posted 10 July , 2019 Share Posted 10 July , 2019 .............. and you'll also see the variation "pugrie" used in the Soldiers' and Sailors' Guide to Hindustani …… in the At the Tailors section ……. just below that useful phrase "Re-cover this topee for me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KENDO Posted 10 July , 2019 Author Share Posted 10 July , 2019 Hi, Thank you for that, seems like there is a few variations. Best regards Kendo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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