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Do you think these two images are of the same man?

 

Mike

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corisande

Ears look very different

 

Left hand man has jug ears, right hand man flat ears

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Skipman

Thanks corisande. I think you're right and I have my doubts. The one on the left is definitely Charles Low Stewart, 6th Black Watch, the other, I have been told is Charles Low Stewart as a Home Guard sergeant.

 

Mike

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corisande

Yes, because the left hand photo is press and poor quality, it is difficult to say for sure with any of his features except the ears

 

The mouths look different, but that could be the pixilation of press photo, and I think the heights of the ears above the eyeline are different, but difficult to say for sure with angles of the heads being different

 

But the ears are so different, and it is very unlikely that he had an "ear job" for protruding ears between 1920 and 1940 :)

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Skipman

There are definitely similarities but as you say, the ears are distinctive. The older photograph is a still from a film. i suppose they might have pinned ears back somehow for the cosmetics of a film.

 

Mike

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ss002d6252

I don't think it's the same man in each picture either Mike.


Crauig

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Skipman

Thanks Craig. Maybe one day we will be able to identify him. thnk you all very much.

 

Mike

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Alisonmallen62

The hairline looks similar there is a lighter area on the older man but the shape looks similar on the left of the younger man. The rounded lobe looks similar.  Squarish foreheads too. The angles dnt show if the older chaps ears stick out. I think though that one looks like a broken nose whilst the other doesn’t but the positions make it hard to determine.  Though I think the bone structure would be a more hooked type nose side on for the younger chap.  Reasonable chance they are the same bloke. 

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Skipman

Thank you Alison. I think in the end, there are many reasons why it could be him, but not able to be certain. Unless something else turns up, we will never know.

 

Mike

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The Inspector

Hi Mike and all,

What other info. have you on L/Cpl 1957 Charles Low Stewart b. 14.9.1891. d.22.4.1958. His middle son Donald had 2 children, he died 9.7.1997, Altrincham, Cheshire.....possible links for more info.

Regards Barry

13 hours ago, Skipman said:

Thank you Alison. I think in the end, there are many reasons why it could be him, but not able to be certain. Unless something else turns up, we will never know.

 

Mike

 

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Skipman

Hi Inspector. I have quite a bit. His son was killed in WW2. i had conversations with a man who knew Charlie Stewart. Unfortunately, we never did managed to see this film together before he passed away, he would have known for sure.  I will be happy to improve my knowledge of the man but don't go to any trouble, and certainly no expense.

 

Thanks as ever

 

Mike

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The Inspector

Hi Mike

Can find photos of 2 of his brothers (Thomas and William) but nothing further on him , one of ten children.  Peter Irons Stewart  MM,1888- 18.10.1918 another brother was Cpl.916043 in the RHA/RFA.

Regards Barry

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dhubthaigh

Mike,

 

Many years ago you posted a photo of the Birks football team in the Aberfeldy thread of the SWMP. The captain is Charles Low Stewart and the picture is of better quality then the newspaper image above. I think if you look, and 'age' him, it could well be your man in the Home Guard.......I suppose eye of the beholder and all that though.

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Skipman
34 minutes ago, dhubthaigh said:

Mike,

 

Many years ago you posted a photo of the Birks football team in the Aberfeldy thread of the SWMP. The captain is Charles Low Stewart and the picture is of better quality then the newspaper image above. I think if you look, and 'age' him, it could well be your man in the Home Guard.......I suppose eye of the beholder and all that though.

 

By jove!, Well-spotted dhubthaigh I have just had a look. haven't looked at it for quite a while and had not put two and two together.

 

Mike

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corisande

Best I can do to compare. I still do not think the WW2 man could have altered his ears as much

 

Bottom line is that to be sure you would need other evidence

 

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Skipman

Thanks for doing that corisande, and I agree. Will keep searching.

 

Mike

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IPT

Here's the other Home Guard ear.

 

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

There is a definite facial resemblance isn't there between the footballer and the older man in the 2 later photos. Especially the eyebrows. The first photo though is a typically (badly) retouched newspaper photo of the era.

I agree, the ears are different, so to me, they must be different although possibly related men.

I wonder though if Bat Ears can flatten over time?

Edited by Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

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GWF1967
19 minutes ago, Dai Bach y Sowldiwr said:

 

I wonder though if Bat Ears can flatten over time?

Several long cold winters in a balaclava?

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Skipman

Thanks again all. Just as a matter of interest, the lad D Adams standing on the right was killed in action on the 20th October 1915, near Vermelles, 3022 David Adams, of the 'Shiny' 7th London.

 

Mike

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Skipman

Looking at this again and came across a clip from the Perthshire Advertiser, 10/3/1943. See attached. I knew the scene was fimed in Kenmore Street, Aberfeldy. This confirms that the name of the lady serving tea is "Mrs Stewart" further backing up my theory that this is Charles Low Stewart, would you agree?

 

Mike

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Skipman
On 05/07/2019 at 10:49, IPT said:

Here's the other Home Guard ear.

 

LS.jpg.66f155b8dd55c3d21dd79398e3a6cb96.jpg

 

 

Will look into this over time. IPT may be correct, but am not sure soldier having tea is same as man playing golf, who seems to be Mr A Morrison?

 

Mike

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

That's curious Mike,

 

Looking at your newsreel (post #22)

The young sailor dismounting the train  (@2:42  & 2:53 on), looks the spitting image of the young soldier in your OP.

And the next man off the train (@2:44 ? in ANZAC hat) is the spitting image of the older man in the same post. (Especially his appearance in post #17.

(But I think the older man on the left having tea is Mr Stewart...)

 

Are they all related maybe?

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Skipman

Thanks Dai. The three servicemen are antipodean. Have not been able to identify them. As far as I know they were not related to any locals. No idea why they were chosen either. Still not sure if the old sergeant in the Home Guards is my Charles Low Stewart but there's a chance. Charlie Stewart seems to have been a well-known and well-respected figure. Was also a member of local fire brigade.

 

Mike

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