Information sought on service men from Castledermot Co.Kildare

[GJW]

I am trying to put together a list of those men who served in the war who lived or were from the parish of Castledermot. I am hoping to do something to have them remembered in the Village. Any information contributions most grateful received as proving difficult.

 

Thank you

[alf mcm]

Welcome to the forum.

A search on Ancestry using Castledermot as a search item gives 19 names;-  https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/categories/39/?priority=united-kingdom&residence=_castledermot-kildare-ireland_846693&residence_x=0-0-0_1-0

You will need an Ancestry account to see the details.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

Edited 10 June , 2019 by alf mcm

[GJW]

Thank you, a few more there I was not aware of

[alf mcm]

This may also be of interest;-  http://www.canadiangreatwarproject.com/searches/soldierResult.asp

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

[clk]

Hi GJW,

 

Here's a few more.

 

 

 

Images sourced from Findmypast

 

First name(s): Patrick

Last name: Corcoran

Birth year: 1868

Birth place as transcribed: Castledermot

Birth place: Castledermot

Link to site  http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7996194

Source: Registry of Shipping and Seamen: Index of First World War Mercantile Marine Medals and the British War Medal

 

Some FMP hits to plod through - eg the 1919 Tank Corps attestation of Robert Byrne indicates that he had previously served as 7521 RMF

 

...and some deaths...

CWGC Deaths.csv

 

Regards

Chris

Edited 11 June , 2019 by clk

[alf mcm]

There's also this, from Australia;-  https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=3449891&isAv=N

 

Click on 'view digital copy' to see his service record.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

[Jervis]

Three men with Castledermot connections named here Castledermot soldiers among the disbanded Irish regiments in 1922. Each attested before or during the war. 

 

 

[GJW]

Thank you so much. This is very helpful and appreciated 

[GJW]

3 hours ago, Jervis said:

Three men with Castledermot connections named here Castledermot soldiers among the disbanded Irish regiments in 1922. Each attested before or during the war. 

 

 

Thank you! 

[archangel9]

Additional information search of CWGC - 

 

https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-dead/results?additional=Castledermot

 

17 matches, 15 Great War.

 

John

Sorry I see Chris has already done that CWGC search.

[GJW]

9 hours ago, alf mcm said:

There's also this, from Australia;-  https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=3449891&isAv=N

 

Click on 'view digital copy' to see his service record.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

Apologies Alf - the australian link had timed out - What was his name? 

[alf mcm]

It was Peter Hollingsworth Wright.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

[GJW]

35 minutes ago, archangel9 said:

Additional information search of CWGC - 

 

https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-dead/results?additional=Castledermot

 

17 matches, 15 Great War.

 

John

Sorry I see Chris has already done that CWGC search.

 

10 hours ago, clk said:

Hi GJW,

 

Here's a few more.

 

 

 

Images sourced from Findmypast

 

First name(s): Patrick

Last name: Corcoran

Birth year: 1868

Birth place as transcribed: Castledermot

Birth place: Castledermot

Link to site  http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7996194

Source: Registry of Shipping and Seamen: Index of First World War Mercantile Marine Medals and the British War Medal

 

Some FMP hits to plod through - eg the 1919 Tank Corps attestation of Robert Byrne indicates that he had previously served as 7521 RMF

 

...and some deaths...

CWGC Deaths.csv 3.28 kB · 1 download

 

Regards

Chris

Thank you Chris - Do you have anymore on John Lawler. Not finding him on Ancestry and no a  member of findmypast

[GJW]

1 hour ago, alf mcm said:

It was Peter Hollingsworth Wright.

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

Yes I have recorded - did it give any more than CWGC gives?

Thanks again

[alf mcm]

Yes it does. Clicking on ;view digital mage' {in blue text} will give you his Australian service records {54 pages}.  https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=3449891&isAv=N

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

[alf mcm]

23 hours ago, alf mcm said:

This may also be of interest;-  http://www.canadiangreatwarproject.com/searches/soldierResult.asp

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

 

William Cope's Canadian service records are here - 29 pages  {click on blue text near middle of page to download his files - takes a minute or two} http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=116218

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

 

Edited 12 June , 2019 by alf mcm

[alf mcm]

Some of your casualties may have left Soldiers Wills. You can search for them here for free;-  http://soldierswills.nationalarchives.ie/search/sw/home.jsp

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

[clk]

Hi,

13 hours ago, GJW said:

Do you have anymore on John Lawler. Not finding him on Ancestry and no a  member of findmypast

 

The only other thing that FMP has is a transcription of his medal index card.

 

Regards

Chris

[GJW]

On 12/06/2019 at 05:44, alf mcm said:

Yes it does. Clicking on ;view digital mage' {in blue text} will give you his Australian service records {54 pages}.  https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=3449891&isAv=N

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

Thanks Alf - serious amount of information there - Thank you for the direction.

On 12/06/2019 at 12:31, clk said:

Hi,

 

The only other thing that FMP has is a transcription of his medal index card.

 

Regards

Chris

Thanks Chris. Really struggling to link this man to the Parish - could I ask you send me the medal index card please?

[charlie962]

Three wounded men who you may or may not have already?

 

Kinsella James
Wounded
Pte
4491  Irish Guards
Home Town / Place of Enlistment     Castledermot
Daily List Date     15th October 1917

 

Service file survives, several useful hits here on FMP

 

 

Stephenson James

Wounded
Sergeant
25801  Royal Irish Regiment
Home Town / Place of Enlistment     Castledermot
Daily List Date     19th January 1918

 

Previously South Irish Horse, 908

To France 17/8/14

 

 

Hearns James
Wounded
Pte
4085  Irish Guards
Home Town / Place of Enlistment     Castledermot
Daily List Date     5th January 1918

 

A couple of hospital Admission records here on FMP

I thought most Guards Service Files survived ?

 

 

 

Edit - here is  a fourth:

 

Kavanagh, Joseph

Wounded

L Sgt

7556   Irish Guards  (Transcription Error- Newspaper says 7559 but actually his no is 7588

Home Town / Place of Enlistment     Castledermott
Daily List Date     14th February 1917

 

Service File etc here on FMP

 

 

 

Charlie

 

 

 

Edited 15 June , 2019 by charlie962

[GJW]

Thank you so much Charlie - those who survived are harder to track. 

[GJW]

2 minutes ago, GJW said:

Thank you so much Charlie - those who survived are harder to track. 

I dont have access to FMP - anything you could send me would be most appreciated

[charlie962]

2 hours ago, GJW said:

I dont have access to FMP -

If you are going in for such an important exercise I think access to Findmypast is essential at some point. Their search engine seems much better than Ancestry. Will your local library get you free access ? Or perhaps there is a free offer from FMP for new subscribers for a week ?

 

Ancestry should have the Service Records I refer to but only FMP or Forces War Records have the Hospital Admissions.

 

Delighted to help on odd/particular items needing verification  but unable to provide the substitute for an FMP sub !

 

I did a similar search to Chris in post 5 but limited the births to 1880 +/- 20 years and this reduced the list to check to 63 hits. I note that Castledermot is sometimes spelt with ...mott, and this can sometimes be missed on a keyword search.

 

I don't currently have an Ancestry sub so I cannot provide you with their links to Service Records.

 

Charlie

Edited 15 June , 2019 by charlie962

[alf mcm]

On 11/06/2019 at 12:31, clk said:

Hi GJW,

 

Here's a few more.

 

 

 

Images sourced from Findmypast

 

First name(s): Patrick

Last name: Corcoran

Birth year: 1868

Birth place as transcribed: Castledermot

Birth place: Castledermot

Link to site  http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7996194

Source: Registry of Shipping and Seamen: Index of First World War Mercantile Marine Medals and the British War Medal

 

Some FMP hits to plod through - eg the 1919 Tank Corps attestation of Robert Byrne indicates that he had previously served as 7521 RMF

 

...and some deaths...

CWGC Deaths.csv 3.28 kB · 5 downloads

 

Regards

Chris

 

Regarding John Lawler, i seem to remember reading somewhere on this forum that the place names seen in newspaper mentions are where the soldier's next of kin live. Do you know of any Lawlers who lived in Castledermot?

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

[GJW]

1 hour ago, alf mcm said:

 

Regarding John Lawler, i seem to remember reading somewhere on this forum that the place names seen in newspaper mentions are where the soldier's next of kin live. Do you know of any Lawlers who lived in Castledermot?

 

Regards,

 

Alf McM

There are quite a few Lawlers in the parish. I am related to some of them. I will get someone to ask around but as I say there are many Lawlers.