Can anyone I’d this officers regt is it Canadian and can any one guess the name

[arantxa]

[helpjpl]

Winnipeg Rifles (The Little Black Devils) ???:

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/canadian_expeditionary_force/cef_e8.htm

 

JP

 

[Acknown]

I read 'Frank A (or H) May', but I can't find a Canadian officer of that name. The Winnipeg Rifles formed the 8th Battalion CEF, I think.

Acknown

 

[arantxa]

I will open up the back and see if it’s written on 

I think I’d agree with you on the name 

[arantxa]

Nothing innocent back 

[Keith Brannen]

Captain Frank Alfonso NEY (thought it was May at first myself, but then thought it was an N not an M, and after searcing Nay, tried Ney).

 

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=560474

 

Military record runs to 68 pages. Awarded the Military Cross.

Edited 10 June , 2019 by Keith Brannen

[helpjpl]

 

Attestation paper, dated August 1915, shows 90th Winnipeg Rifles. (#3).

 

Military Cross, London Gazette 21 December 1916:

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29872/supplement/12436/data.pdf

 

Another, later, photo here:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/144256509/frank-alfonso-ney

 

JP

Edited 10 June , 2019 by helpjpl

[arantxa]

Thank you both of you.  You could work at Bletchley I gave up after an hour

Thanks Again 

[Jools mckenna]

Frank in colour. 

[arantxa]

Hoops your fantastic at this I’m impressed!!!

[arantxa]

I got his at the war and peace show

what a coincidence eh

[Peter Maxfield]

More info here:-

https://www.flickr.com/photos/46212770@N08/26395757668/in/album-72157624930595025/

 

He states his military experience on his attestation at enlistment (August 8th 1915, at Camp Sewell) as being 7 years in the O.T.C. (The University Officers' Training Corps) in Great Britain and Cyprus, and 6 months in the 90th Winnipeg Rifles (a later mention says May-August 1915). Next of kin lists: Mrs. Ney, Bridge House, Rye, East Sussex, though he was born in Folkestone, Kent.

He was first a Lieutenant with the 61st Battalion; then in 'B' Company of the 17th Battalion, before becoming Captain (and Acting Major) with the 1st C.M.R. / 8th Brigade Machine Gun Company.

 

I am in touch with his grandson, Frank DeCourcey Ney, who is often in London. This Frank's father was also a Frank - and famous: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Ney; so we have Frank Alfonso, Frank James and Frank DeCourcey.

 

I do like the colourised IWM portrait. I have stolen it to add to my 1st C.M.R. website and Flickr album, but would like to credit who has done the work, if that is o.k?

Flickr here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46212770@N08/albums/72157624930595025/with/26395757668/

Website here: http://canadianmountedrifles.yolasite.com/

 

Part of an email from me to his granddaughter, Michele Ney, which included a link to the IWM portrait:

"Attached is the original scan held at the Imperial War Museum in London. It's late in the War - most likely 1918, so he would only be 27 here. He looks rather sad, but I expect he must have been rather a lot of fun to have produced your father! I hope the rest of his life was peaceful and joyous. Our grandfathers would have been comrades together with a bond that is probably inconceivable to create in peacetime. What they saw, had to do, and survived is almost beyond comprehension. When Alan's relation was killed - Major Charles Donald Livingstone, it appears that Frank was promoted rapidly. I think, basically, from a Lieutenant to a Major. The reference I've seen has him on that day 'To be a Captain, (Vice Captain; Acting Major)' taking over Command of Charles's Company ["B" Coy.]. That alone demands respect, added to winning the Military Cross for bravery in the field!"

https://www.flickr.com/photos/46212770@N08/8316140438/in/album-72157624930595025/

 

Very best wishes, Pete.

Edited 7 September , 2019 by Peter Maxfield
Additional information

[Peter Maxfield]

Mentions of Frank in the 1st C.M.R. Battalion War Diaries:

 

The reproduction is not represented as an official version of the material reproduced or as having been

made in affiliation with, or with the endorsement of, Library and Archives Canada.

Library and Archives, Canada, is the source.

 

Thu., Dec 7, 1916      In the Field

Battalion in Bde. Support. Bathing Parades to ANZIN for balance of Battalion. one OR has

proceeded to 3 Div Post Office AUBIGNY for duties rd as postal Orderly. Capt. F. A,. Ney has taken over duties as actg. Town Major MAROEUIL.

 

Sun., Jan 21, 1917      In Field     VILLERS BRULIN, FRANCE

Church parade at 3pm. Battalion parade Ground. Capt T. A. Ney and two ORs have proceeded to First Army School BOULOGNE for seventh course. Lieut. J. Hewitson returned from Div. Gas School. Lieut. F. I. Simpson and Lieut. L. B. Gray have proceeded to Royal Flying Corps 2 ORs returned from Leave.

 

Wed., Feb 21, 1917              In Field        BURBURE, FRANCE

Battalion in Div Training BURURE.  Reveille 6:30AM.  Roll Call and reading of Orders 6:45AM.  Breakfast and Sick parade 7AM.  At 10AM a muster parade was held on the Bn Parade ground.  Capt. F. A. Ney returned from course at BOLOUGNE

 

Tue., Mar 13, 1917               In Field      BURBURE, FRANCE

9:AM  Battalion paraded on Battalion Parade ground.  9:30AM. to 12:30 pm  Company carried out platoon and company drill on Company Parade grounds.  The Lewis gunners reported to Capt. Ney on the range for practice firing.

 

Sat., Mar 17, 1917               In the Field     BURBURE, FRANCE

Pte. N. Quiron has been awarded the Italian Bronze Medal for Military Valor.  9:30am to 12.30pm  Companies willcarried on independently on Company parade ground.  Lewis gunners paraded to Capt. Ney for practice firing at the range.

 

Thu., Apr 26, 1917    In Field       VILLERS AU BOIS, FRANCE

Capt. F. A. Ney, M.C was in charge of this party.  Battalion parade on Batt. Parade Ground for Kit inspection by Company Commanders.  

 

 

Edited 7 September , 2019 by Peter Maxfield
Chronology!

[Jools mckenna]

4 minutes ago, Peter Maxfield said:

 

I do like the colourised IWM portrait. I have stolen it to add to my 1st C.M.R. website and Flickr album, but would like to credit who has done the work, if that is o.k?

Flickr here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/46212770@N08/albums/72157624930595025/with/26395757668/

Website here: http://canadianmountedrifles.yolasite.com/

 

Very best wishes, Pete.

No problem Pete. I did it, so just credit it to Jools McKenna. 

[Peter Maxfield]

Quote

 

Will do Jools. Thanks!