Guest kitycat68 Posted 30 January , 2005 Share Posted 30 January , 2005 After all the help with my last request i wondered if you could help me one again, ive attached a photo of my grt grt grandad sat down and grt uncle stood up they were both from Salford, Lancashire and both called JOHN HUGHES this photo was taken in ww1. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Lees Posted 30 January , 2005 Share Posted 30 January , 2005 The cap badge is the Lancashire Fusiliers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kitycat68 Posted 30 January , 2005 Share Posted 30 January , 2005 thank you for that any ideas on the gentleman stood up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 31 January , 2005 Share Posted 31 January , 2005 thank you for that any ideas on the gentleman stood up? He has his Marksman's Crossed Rifles Proficiency Badge & what Appears to be a Lewis Gunner/Hotchkiss Gunner/Machine Gunner [LG ,MG,or HG in a wreath]Below it,the Shoulder Titles Should identify his Regiment,if you can get a Close up of them,they could be one of a Dozen similar Short Curved Titles;eg: "King's","S.Lancs",N.Lanc","Loyals",Etc; There are an awful lot of "John Hughes" {1600 +}listed in the NA MiCs,Have you any other information,eg: Middle Names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackblue Posted 31 January , 2005 Share Posted 31 January , 2005 As Harry has outlined we really need more information to take this further. There were a number of service battalions recruited in Salford (known as the Salford Pals) and there appears to have been a number of John Hughes' that served with them. There were also territorial battalions in the vicinity and men from the area would also have served with other battalions. Did they both survive the war? There are a number of John Hughes' from Salford who served with the LF who died. Rgds Tim D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovetown Posted 31 January , 2005 Share Posted 31 January , 2005 You might also want to take the 18th (2nd South East Lancs) LF (2nd Bury Bantams) into consideration, as I am aware of a case of a guy from the 15th LF (1st Salford) drafted into it when the 35th (Bantam) Div was weeded out/ shored up. I'd be surprised if he was the only one. The same could easily apply to the 17th (1st SEL) LF (1st Bury Bantams) too. The Bury Bantams were all supposed to be rock-hard miners who belied the under-fed/ under-sized reputation (often unfairly) given the Bantams. And while not intending to be flippant about your relatives' service in any way, I couldn't help but think: Dalziel and Pascoe - The Early Years. Regards, Grovetown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kitycat68 Posted 1 February , 2005 Share Posted 1 February , 2005 wow thanks for all that. the only information i actually have is as follows: they were both called John Hughes from Pendleton in Salford, lanchashire. They are father and son, the father we presume survived as hes buried in a cemetery in salford. but the son lost his life in ww1 Ive looked through the cwgc just to see if they give parents details as a few do, but with the information you have given me i might be able to check a few more out. The shoulder badge unfortunately is very distorted when enlarged the same as the "gunner" badge. A bit thank you for the info you have given me so far. regards janet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kitycat68 Posted 12 February , 2005 Share Posted 12 February , 2005 ive managed to get hold of another photo of john hughes. Is the cap badge from the cheshire regiment? any info pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Bulloch Posted 12 February , 2005 Share Posted 12 February , 2005 Hello Janet, I don't think the badge is "The Cheshire Regiment" the shoulder title is too small my guess is it is ASC "Army Service Corps" perhaps some of the other members may correct me if I am wrong. Cheers Rob. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kitycat68 Posted 12 February , 2005 Share Posted 12 February , 2005 thanks Rob, will see what the others say too. janet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackblue Posted 13 February , 2005 Share Posted 13 February , 2005 Janet, He is Army Service Corps. It looks like an RASC shoulder title which would make it 1918 I think. I cannot find any ASC men who fit the bill. Are you sure his name was John? There is the following man listed from Pendleton as KIA: Name: HUGHES, JOHN Initials: J Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment: Lancashire Fusiliers Unit Text: 15th Bn. Age: 45 Date of Death: 01/07/1916 Service No: 27536 Additional information: Husband of Annie Hughes, of 5, Dumville St., Whit Lane, Pendleton, Manchester. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 3 C and 3 D. Cemetery: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL Rgds Tim D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kitycat68 Posted 13 February , 2005 Share Posted 13 February , 2005 thank you so much for that info. Tim the cwgc info you gave couldnt have been him as he was only approx 23 but thank you anyway. janet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackblue Posted 13 February , 2005 Share Posted 13 February , 2005 Janet, It was the young bloke who died and not his father? Perhaps this man is also a relative? Rgds Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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