PrussianGarde Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 (edited) I came across this on eBay and don’t know what it is. Edited 4 June , 2019 by PrussianGarde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardenerbill Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 The first one you put up originally looked like a bit like an Iron Cross Signet ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrussianGarde Posted 4 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 4 June , 2019 It was a repro so I put up a new one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 4 June , 2019 Share Posted 4 June , 2019 It looks like a typical patriotic ring with the German flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrussianGarde Posted 4 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 4 June , 2019 Did soldiers normally wear these and does this look legitimate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 5 June , 2019 Share Posted 5 June , 2019 (edited) An interesting item. Wouldn’t a patriotic ring be more likely to bear an Imperial Eagle? I had thought that Bismarck’s creation of a unified German State used the Eagle to draw everyone together under the crown rather than a tricolour style flag, which has more Republican undertones. Edited 5 June , 2019 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 5 June , 2019 Share Posted 5 June , 2019 41 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said: An interesting item. Wouldn’t a patriotic ring be more likely to bear an Imperial Eagle? I had thought that Bismarck’s creation of a unified German State used the Eagle to draw everyone together under the crown rather than a tricolour style flag, which has more Republican undertones. It is the imperial flag: black - white - red, not the republican flag: black - red - yellow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 5 June , 2019 Share Posted 5 June , 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, AOK4 said: It is the imperial flag: black - white - red, not the republican flag: black - red - yellow! I understood that it was black-white-red, and that that was the WW1 era flag. I just meant that to use a tricolour (of any kind) was more in a Republican style of doing things and that a German patriot of that period would perhaps be more likely to display an Imperial Eagle. It was just a query really? Edited 5 June , 2019 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 5 June , 2019 Share Posted 5 June , 2019 (edited) Hi Frogsmile, as far as I can say from my collecting experience etc. to wave/show the national German flag was as patriotic as displaying Iron Crossses, wearing the Kaiser´s mustache (especially if male) or utilizing the imperial eagle. On postcards of that time you´ll find it all and it seems to have been regarded all the same. Here an example of a patriotic card with text from the national anthym, His Majesty and a soldier in the "Bunter Rock" holding the national flag. The sender wrote on it: Baldiger Sieg = Speedy victory. Best, GreyC PS: The ring could be a patriotic piece of (cheap) jewelry, it could also be a ring with the colors of a student association of which there were many around at that time. Edited 5 June , 2019 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 5 June , 2019 Share Posted 5 June , 2019 Thank you, Grey C, that’s interesting and makes sense the more I think about it. I suppose it’s rather like the then attitude in Britain regarding the Union Flag and Crown symbology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 5 June , 2019 Share Posted 5 June , 2019 (edited) Hi Frogsmile, silly me forgot the most important thing: the imperial eagle, was the PRUSSIAN eagle. That´s why the infantry had different crests on their Picklehauben, depending on the state the troops were from (Prussian=Prussian Eagle, Bavarians=Bavarian crest, etc.) The NATIONAL symbol was the red white black cockade and the national flag. So you´d go back to those symbols if you were keen on displaying national pride. If you´d demonstrate Prussian sentiment, you´d resort to the eagle. As commander in chief of the German Army in war time (and in war time only) Kaiser Wilhelm had two personal Standarten (flags) that were shown depending on his role. Both looked similar. One was colored red and had the eagle and the Prussian crown, the other yellow with eagle and Kaiserkrone. Both with Iron Cross. Good photos of these flags in use are hard to find. Here is a semi-good example. KWII handing out medals. In the back of him his personal flag-bearer. It will probably be the yellow flag, as he will have acted in his function as CIC. GreyC Edited 5 June , 2019 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 5 June , 2019 Share Posted 5 June , 2019 (edited) Just for the heck of it I have attached a few details of helmets from different contingents of the German Army. Baden, Bayern, Hamburg, Preußen. Whereas Baden, Bayern an Prussia had their own crest, the Hamburg contingent sported the Prussian crest, but showed the state cockade a red Hanseatic cross. Nerd stuff, I know GreyC Edited 5 June , 2019 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 5 June , 2019 Share Posted 5 June , 2019 Thank you, Grey C, you have explained the policy and protocol very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrussianGarde Posted 5 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 5 June , 2019 (edited) Did many soldiers wear patriotic ring and if so, which were the most common ones? Also, does this look like a standard patriotic ring? Edited 5 June , 2019 by PrussianGarde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrussianGarde Posted 5 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 5 June , 2019 I have also found another ring apparently trench art. What do u guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 5 June , 2019 Share Posted 5 June , 2019 I'd say that's some kind of modern fabrication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrussianGarde Posted 5 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 5 June , 2019 I’ve got many rings I’ve been watching that I’ve wanted to check so I’ll be posting them here. Here is another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 5 June , 2019 Share Posted 5 June , 2019 This one seems an original ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrussianGarde Posted 5 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 5 June , 2019 Ok, then I’ll purchase this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrussianGarde Posted 6 June , 2019 Author Share Posted 6 June , 2019 Here’s another one just out of curiosity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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