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Scottish Uniform/Tartan Experts Needed


tommy mcclimonds

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Evening All

 

I was wondering if there are any Scottish uniform/tartan experts out there who could help me identify the regiment and the time period during which this picture could have been taken. I am reliably informed by it's owner that it was taken during the Great War but not being an expert on Scottish military uniforms I am appealing for some assistance.

 

Thanks in anticipation, regards Tommy.

 

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Sporran looks like the Seaforth  or Gordon Highlanders.  BUT  Apparently the Gordons Lightest tartan stripe (yellow) can look black on old film.  whereas lhe Seaforths lightest stripe (white) shows well,  -  white.  I'm going to plump for the Seaforths.    The other diagonostic feature would be the garter ribbons on the socks.  Seaforths one ribbon, Gordons two.   This chaps wearing spectacular spats,  so I can't see 'em. 

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Forgot to reach a conclusion Doh!
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BTW,  I claim no specific knowledge on Scots uniforms.  I benefit from the stirling work done by the Scottish Miitary Research Group,  http://www.scottishmilitaryresearch.co.uk/ 

They even have a handy research guide called "Scottish Military Research Using Family Photographs"   http://scottishmilitaryresearch.weebly.com/uploads/7/3/9/1/73918079/scottish_military_research_using_family_photographs.pdf

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I am not sure that this is military at all. I cannot see anything clearly military. It is a nuisance not being able to see the glengarry badge. Isn't the whole lot a bit too big for the wearer?

RM

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3 hours ago, rolt968 said:

I am not sure that this is military at all. I cannot see anything clearly military. It is a nuisance not being able to see the glengarry badge. Isn't the whole lot a bit too big for the wearer?

RM

 

I agree.  It’s massively oversized for the wearer, including the shoes and spats.  Furthermore, the waist belt plate does not appear to be military, the kilt is too long, and the baldric also.  From the dressing up box for a portrait photo methinks.

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Maybe his mum bought him a size he would grow into. (My mum did that with my school blazer in 1967. I'm pretty sure it still wouldn't fit me).

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1 hour ago, Steven Broomfield said:

Maybe his mum bought him a size he would grow into. (My mum did that with my school blazer in 1967. I'm pretty sure it still wouldn't fit me).

"You'll grow into it son. "  Favourite saying of Army storemen too.   

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69th Bn. Photostudio Highlanders.

 

As aforementioned, he's drowning in that kit!  Way too big for him.

 

No collar badges, no furniture on the crossbelt, no dirk. 

(although can't see whether there's any kiltpin or rosettes/sgian dubh/hose flashes).

 

There are a fair few things that the tartan could be, for instance, Graham of Monteith (or Montrose) springs to mind; and that has been worn by some army units over the years; but it's certainly not one of the tartans commonly worn by the 'Scottish regiments'.

 

One surprising thing is the plaid.  It's tidy and is not messy (e.g. unstitched) at the front!    

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14 hours ago, Ron Abbott said:

 

 

As aforementioned, he's drowning in that kit!  Way too big for him.

 

 

Maybe he's running it in for a friend.

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6 hours ago, Steven Broomfield said:

Way too big for him

 

Or her

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Thank you to all who responded both helpful and frivolous!

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14 hours ago, tommy mcclimonds said:

Thank you to all who responded both helpful and frivolous!

 

I'll take the latter.

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Hello,

Could this be a civilian pipe band uniform? Certainly does not fit into my military knowledge.

Cheers,

Owain

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MacPhotostudio and District Pipe Band perhaps......?

 

He looks as though his kilt (or rather maxi-skirt) would fall down if he took a couple of steps forward. 

And these sleeves would fit a boxer with twice his reach.

 

One thing in his favour however is that whoever put the plaid on him, appears to have had reasonable knowledge as to what they were doing.

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