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Skipman

Second-Lieutenant A S Cumming, 1/5th Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders, was killed in action on the 20th of April, 1917 in the area of Outpost Hill. The battalion diary states that he was killed on the 20th, and buried on the 21st. He now lies in Gaza War Cemetery, Ref XII. G. 12., which is about 2 miles from where he fell which, at that time, was still in Turkish hands, and would be for another 6 months. His body must have been moved to Gaza at some point but there appears to be no Grave Concentration Report. Were Grave Concentration Reports not kept for Palestine, or have they yet to be uploaded to the CWGC site?

 

Mike

 

Source of partial images  ancestry.co.uk battalion diaries

temp Second Lt Cumming diary 1.PNG

temp Second Lt Cumming diary 2.PNG

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steve fuller

May be worth direct contact with CWGC for that one?

 

I've asked several people in CWGC 'shops' over the years about the Concentration records and the knowledge outside of the main site seems to vary wildly. In comparison, Slough presumably have direct access to those who actually know with certainty?

 

Be interested to know the outcome if you get anywhere

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Skipman

Thanks Steve. I will make inquiries.

 

Mike

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Skipman

Have sent a message to CWGC, will let you know when get a reply.

 

Mike

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johnboy

Seems some were brought in from battlefields

from CWGC history of cem

 

History Information

Gaza was bombarded by French warships in April 1915. At the end of March 1917, it was attacked and surrounded by the Egyptian Expeditionary Force in the First Battle of Gaza, but the attack was broken off when Turkish reinforcements appeared. The Second Battle of Gaza, 17-19 April, left the Turks in possession and the Third Battle of Gaza, begun on 27 October, ended with the capture of the ruined and deserted city on 7 November 1917. Casualty Clearing Stations arrived later that month and General and Stationary hospitals in 1918. Some of the earliest burials were made by the troops that captured the city. About two-thirds of the total were brought into the cemetery from the battlefields after the Armistice. The remainder were made by medical units after the Third Battle of Gaza, or, in some cases, represent reburials from the battlefields by the troops who captured the city. Of the British Soldiers, the great majority belong to the 52nd (Lowland), the 53rd (Welsh), the 54th (East Anglian) and the 74th (Yeomanry) Divisions. During the Second World War, Gaza was an Australian hospital base, and the AIF Headquarters were posted there. Among the military hospitals in Gaza were 2/1st Australian General Hospital, 2/6th Australian General Hospital, 8th Australian Special Hospital, and from July 1943 until May 1945, 91 British General Hospital. There was a Royal Air Force aerodrome at Gaza, which was considerably developed from 1941 onwards. Gaza War Cemetery contains 3,217 Commonwealth burials of the First World War, 781 of them unidentified. Second World War burials number 210. There are also 30 post war burials and 234 war graves of other nationalities.

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Skipman

I received a reply today.

 

Thank you for your email.

We can confirm that are no concentration documents available for this cemetery so we are sadly unable to assist you in this instance.

 

Mike

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steve fuller

Oh. Oh well, worth a go and at least we know I suppose?

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