roger Posted 3 June , 2003 Share Posted 3 June , 2003 Please help with the abbreviations from the paragraph below which was kindly sent to me by Ivor Lee and refers to my Grandfathers Bn. 21 Jan 17 22 Bn West Yorkshire (18 & 19 Coys) - sos to RAINCHEVAL 5th Army - 4th Army AQ Diary 22 Jan 17 22 Bn West Yorkshire (18 + 19 Coys) - tos RAINCHEVAL (XIII Corps) from 4th Army - RCE - 5th Army AQ Diary sos ? tos- taken on strength ? AQ- Assistant Quartermaster ? RCE ? I apologise if they are already on the the abbreviations thread but I didn't see 'em last time I looked. Roger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesmessenger Posted 3 June , 2003 Share Posted 3 June , 2003 sos - Struck off Strength tos - Taken on Strength RCE - Railway Construction Engineer AQ - Adjutant-General's and Quartermaster-General's staff banches Charles M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger Posted 3 June , 2003 Author Share Posted 3 June , 2003 Charles, Cheers, here's some more, 19 Nov 17 18 Coy - tos roads - IV Corps Diary"All labour on roads under CRO to come under command of CE, from Zero Hour for 48 hours then return to the CRO when the DGT Line is advanced and is allotted as follows: 26, 62, 69, 113, ½ 142, 153, ½ 157 and ½ 160 Coys working on the ALBERT-BAPAUME Road under the CRO. This labour will be working for the CREs of 56, 62 & 30 Divisions. The following labour will be allotted to the CE for bridging: ½ 18, 29, 1 pl 76 & ½ 710 Coys. The following labour was allocated to CE for water services ½ 62 & ½ 76 Coys. 5 Sep 18 18 Coy - moves from 51B/S.2.b.3.3 to 57C/C.3.a.7.5 - BG rail - XVII Corps Diary CRO ? CE - Cmmander Engineers ? DGT Line ? BG rail ? Roger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesmessenger Posted 3 June , 2003 Share Posted 3 June , 2003 CRO - Corps Roads Officer CE - Chief Engineer (the senior RE officer at Corps) DGT - Director-General of Transportation BG rail - Broad Gauge railway as opposed to light railway, I think. You are certainly putting me to the test! Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger Posted 3 June , 2003 Author Share Posted 3 June , 2003 Thanks Charles, I haven't quite finished yet but you seem to be doing ok so far! In the various war diaries Group is mentioned pretty frequently, for example, 19 Sep 17 18 Coy - sos to 13 Gp ARRAS - 44 Group Diary What was a Group and how did it fit into the organisation? Roger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesmessenger Posted 3 June , 2003 Share Posted 3 June , 2003 Roger A Labour Group comprised a number of Labour Companies, usually four or five, and was commanded by a Lt Col. Ivor Lee will probably give you a more precise answer. Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger Posted 3 June , 2003 Author Share Posted 3 June , 2003 Thanks again Charles. It's all making sense now If you ever need to know anything about the Napoleonic wars feel free to ask! This is the other period of military history I'm interested in and my wife is dreading me building up another collection of books. Cheers, Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Lee Posted 3 June , 2003 Share Posted 3 June , 2003 Apologies to Roger - in my haste to get the information to you I forgot to include an explanation of the abbreviations. If there is anything else that is not clear do not hesitate to email me off list. Thanks to Charles for providing the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger Posted 3 June , 2003 Author Share Posted 3 June , 2003 No need to apologise Ivor. I nearly did e-mail off list but after seeing the abbreviations thread I thought that perhaps others may also benefit from this kind of information. Roger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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