weshallremember Posted 1 May , 2019 Share Posted 1 May , 2019 hello looking for information on this soldier death details family etc many thanks trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 1 May , 2019 Share Posted 1 May , 2019 It might be helpful if you told us what you know about him already. to avoid duplication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weshallremember Posted 1 May , 2019 Author Share Posted 1 May , 2019 sorry just know he was killed 11/10/1918 and he was from cardiff would like to know more about where he was when killed and if possible when he enlisted thanks trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 1 May , 2019 Share Posted 1 May , 2019 Nothing about enlistment on his Medal Index Card (as Leonard Hancock) and the preview only shows an entitlement to the Victory & British Medal. As he was only 19 when he died (CWGC entry) I expect he didn't join up soon enough to get either of the Stars. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D2519643 - MIC https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/536987/hancock,-leonard-searle/ - CWGC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Posted 1 May , 2019 Share Posted 1 May , 2019 (edited) His Register of Soldiers' Effects record shows a war gratuity of £7 which indicates enlistment in or around July 1917. His sole legatee was his mother Eliza. The 1st Battalion Grenadier Guards war diaries are here at the National Archives, downloadable for a small fee. Mike Edited 1 May , 2019 by Langdon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 1 May , 2019 Share Posted 1 May , 2019 Curses - got to be quick to beat you, Mike! Soldiers Effects also says died of wounds. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Posted 1 May , 2019 Share Posted 1 May , 2019 Here he is in the 1911 Census: Name:Leonard Searle Hancock Age in 1911:11 Estimated birth year:abt 1900 Relation to Head:Son Gender:Male Birth Place:Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish:Cardiff Search Photos:Search for 'Cardiff' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island:Glamorgan Country:Wales Street address:38 Dudley Street Cardiff Registration district:Cardiff Sub-registration district:Central Cardiff Household Members: NameAge James Joseph Hancock 46 Eliza Hancock 42 Fredrick James Hancock 19 Elsie Winifred Hancock 15 Leonard Searle Hancock 11 Gilbert Ernest Hancock 8 Elfreda Jesamany Hancock 6 Ivor John Hancock 4 Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 2 May , 2019 Share Posted 2 May , 2019 This Ancestry Tree gives his birth, censuses and death Click for Ancestry Tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weshallremember Posted 2 May , 2019 Author Share Posted 2 May , 2019 can anyone find his birth records thanks trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 2 May , 2019 Share Posted 2 May , 2019 His birth is here on ancestry....https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=mEf38&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&indiv=1&db=freebmdbirth&gsfn=Leonard searle&gsln=Hancock&gsfn_x=1&gsln_x=1&cp=0&qh=hfAK3Tt1XUuG2eR6VfrGAA%3D%3D&new=1&rank=1&uidh=l37&redir=false&gss=angs-d&pcat=34&fh=0&h=8428718&recoff=&ml_rpos=1 Also on ancestry, in soldiers died in the Great War, it records him as "Formerly Tr/3/26215 R.B." https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=mEf36&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&indiv=1&db=uksoldiersgreatwar&gsfn=Leonard&gsln=Hancock&gsfn_x=NP&gsln_x=1&cp=11&qh=QuF/%2B/RHSoDxyuKopvNn2g%3D%3D&new=1&rank=1&uidh=l37&redir=false&gss=angs-d&pcat=39&fh=1&h=472309&recoff=&ml_rpos=2 Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 2 May , 2019 Share Posted 2 May , 2019 Hi Trevor, 5 minutes ago, Dave66 said: Also on ancestry, in soldiers died in the Great War, it records him as "Formerly Tr/3/26215 R.B." Training Reserve Bn....of the Rifle Brigade??? WRT to his Grenadier Guards service (online) surviving service papers for 30980 Saw; 30981 Anstead; (30985); 30987 Tutin; and 30988 Lyndsell all seem to have been transferred to the Grenadier Guards on 5.4.1918. Unlike the majority of service files that were severely affected/lost by a fire in WW2 at the central repository in Arnside Street, I understand that the GGs records were held away by the Regiment and were unaffected, and in recent times have been transferred to the possession of the MoD. If it does still exist you should be able to get a (probably heavily weeded) copy (£30) of what's left of it. How to go about it advice is here, and a helpdesk phone number here. Contrary to the general advice shown, I understand that as he was born +110 year ago the MoD wouldn't need a copy death certificate with any application. Leonard has a surviving will, but it may well consist of a very few words, and tell you little - a B&W low resolution scan image (£10) from here. Buried in Carnieres Communal Cemetery Extension, if you don't already have one, it looks like the good folk at British War Graves would be able to send you a decent quality digital image of his grave, on a free of charge basis. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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