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30985 leonard searle hancock help please


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looking for information on this soldier

death details

family etc

many thanks


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It might be helpful if you told us what you know about him already. to avoid duplication.

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just know  he was killed 11/10/1918

and he was from cardiff

would like to know more about where he was when killed

and if possible when he enlisted



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Nothing about enlistment on his Medal Index Card (as Leonard Hancock) and the preview only shows an entitlement to the Victory & British Medal. As he was only 19 when he died (CWGC entry) I expect he didn't join up soon enough to get either of the Stars.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D2519643 - MIC

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/536987/hancock,-leonard-searle/ - CWGC.


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His Register of Soldiers' Effects record shows a war gratuity of £7 which indicates enlistment in or around July 1917. His sole legatee was his mother Eliza.


The 1st Battalion Grenadier Guards war diaries are here at the National Archives, downloadable for a small fee.



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Curses - got to be quick to beat you, Mike! Soldiers Effects also says died of wounds.



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Here he is in the 1911 Census:


Name:Leonard Searle Hancock

Age in 1911:11

Estimated birth year:abt 1900

Relation to Head:Son


Birth Place:Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish:Cardiff

Search Photos:Search for 'Cardiff' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection



Street address:38 Dudley Street Cardiff

Registration district:Cardiff

Sub-registration district:Central Cardiff

Household Members:


James Joseph Hancock 46

Eliza Hancock 42

Fredrick James Hancock 19

Elsie Winifred Hancock 15

Leonard Searle Hancock 11

Gilbert Ernest Hancock 8

Elfreda Jesamany Hancock 6

Ivor John Hancock 4



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This Ancestry Tree gives his birth, censuses and death


Click for Ancestry Tree

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Hi Trevor,


5 minutes ago, Dave66 said:

Also on ancestry, in soldiers died in the Great War, it records him as "Formerly Tr/3/26215 R.B."


Training Reserve Bn....of the Rifle Brigade???


WRT to his Grenadier Guards service (online) surviving service papers for 30980 Saw; 30981 Anstead; (30985); 30987 Tutin; and 30988 Lyndsell all seem to have been transferred to the Grenadier Guards on 5.4.1918.


Unlike the majority of service files that were severely affected/lost by a fire in WW2 at the central repository in Arnside Street, I understand that the GGs records were held away by the Regiment and were unaffected, and in recent times have been transferred to the possession of the MoD. If it does still exist you should be able to get a (probably heavily weeded) copy (£30) of what's left of it. How to go about it advice is here, and a helpdesk phone number here. Contrary to the general advice shown, I understand that as he was born +110 year ago the MoD wouldn't need a copy death certificate with any application.


Leonard has a surviving will, but it may well consist of a very few words, and tell you little - a B&W low resolution scan image (£10) from here


Buried in Carnieres Communal Cemetery Extension, if you don't already have one, it looks like the good folk at British War Graves would be able to send you a decent quality digital image of his grave, on a free of charge basis. 




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