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arantxa

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hi

not great photo has any one else seen this maker  is it genuine

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I hope it's a genuine one,these are sadly faked a lot.

Try, if no one can identify this as a genuine badge, try the military badge forum, they are excellent on there, they'll get an answer to you.

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/forums/

Hope this helps

 

Chris 

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I hope it is genuine, it's a lovely badge the Liverpool Pals. The make is Jennens and Company.

And the S is for silver.

 

Chris

 

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Thanks will take your advice 

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23 minutes ago, arantxa said:

Thanks will take your advice 

I'm a member of that forum, if you like I can do it on your behalf?

 

Chris

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Never seen the Jennens mark stamped in this way, only ever seen it cast

6 minutes ago, Dragoon said:

I'm a member of that forum, if you like I can do it on your behalf?

 

Chris

 

 

it is already on there.

 

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6 minutes ago, Jerry B said:

Never seen the Jennens mark stamped in this way, only ever seen it cast

 

 

it is already on there.

 

Cheers for letting me know

Chris

 

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The badges commissioned by Lord Derby for issue to the original enlistees were made by Elkington & Co (marked E&C) and hallmarked 1914, either (mostly) Birmingham or Chester.

 

Some may be hallmarked London, although I've not seen one, yet still 1914 and Elkington.

 

Backs were solid.

 

FWIW: that posted is not one of those obviously, and I think the quality of the back is too poor to even be a sweetheart or somesuch.

 

Cheers,

 

GT.

 

 

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I see this badge has now also been widely dismissed on the BBF.

 

Happily for them, they get a lot more latitude than we do on challenging repros etc.

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im just glad im not a badge collector seems to be lots of copys

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I am also a B Badge member, appearing as Grumpy. I can understand fakes/repros of high value items, but am puzzled by the large number of non-genuine versions of £15 to £50 quid badges. The cost/benefit ratio must be poor. Easier to go out and graft for a few bob.

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Here is my example of a Elkington & Co manufactured badge showing a 1914 London hallmark. It also shows the correct positioning of the loops. Original examples can also be found where the loops were removed and pins fitted so they could be worn by wives or sweethearts.

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