Jump to content
Great War Forum

Remembered Today:

Sign in to follow this  
ATNOMIS

Pvt Williaim Tweedie 1837 4th SAI KIA 19 July 1916. Information Please

Recommended Posts

ATNOMIS

Pals

 

Any details on William Tweedie 1837 4Batt AS Infanrty? I have South African War Graves Project

 

Thanks In Advance

 

Simon

 

 

 

Name:
TWEEDIE
Given Name:
WILLIAM
Initials:
W
Service No:
1837
Rank:
Private
 
Regiment:
South African Infantry
 
Unit:
4th Regt.
 
Unit 2:
"C" Coy.
 
Date of Death:
1916-07-19
 
Cause of Death:
Killed in action, at Delville Wood
Additional
Information:
Son of William Scott Tweedie, of Wanderers View, Johannesburg
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
DavidOwen

Simon

 

Soldier's Effects (courtesy Ancestry)

image.png.f4c506ee6578a5450dfd1d749840d7a7.png

 

He is listed in the South African Military Index 1853 -2004 but the only info from that you haven't got is a "serial number" of 9240 - His "Force number" is as you have it 1837.

 

Regards

David

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
IPT

Just a little bit of background - the father, William Scott Tweedie, was born c1869 in Scotland.  His address, upon his death in 1939, was 23 Bouquet Street. He was described as a military pensioner. 

 

In 1916, his address was 81 Stiemen's Street, Wanderers View

 

Tweedie.jpg.7726adb9a8025e11e958616f5a46d91d.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
MaxD

The war diary of 4th SA Infantry is at the National Archives WO 95/1785 (also to be found on Ancestry).  The action at Delville Wood is recorded in reasonable detail.

 

Max

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
ATNOMIS

Thank you all

 

Ive looked at the War Diary it hard to read but I'll try and get into it.

 

Simon

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
ATNOMIS

military pensioner.  Could he have been ex Brirish Boer War???

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
DavidOwen

There is a Pte W Tweedie 5815  (and for that matter a Pte M Tweedie 5814) eligible for the QSA and 1901 clasp having both served in the 42nd Company 12th Battalion Imperial Yeomanry. A second document has W. Tweedie as a Lieut. - overwritten on the Pte. and the clasps both are entitled to are Wittebergen, Cape Colony and Transvaal.

 

There is also another (presumably different) Pte W. Tweedie 32685 of 108th Company Imperial Yeomanry also eligible for 1901/2 clasps on QSA. This soldier's clasp entitlements were Cape Colony, Orange Free State and Transvan (sic).

 

Then there is Bugler W Tweedie 2734 5th Bn Royal Irish Rifles entitled to QSA with Cape Colony and Orange Free State clasps. It may be worth noting that a Captain W Tweedie 289566 2nd Bn Royal Irish Fusiliers  was entitled to a 1945 Palestine clasp whether it is the same man is unknown.

 

Then to cap it all off there is a medal roll detailing a "List of medals returned by the Major General i/c Aministration S.A." referring to the Klerkedorp Town Guard which features on the list one Pte W. Tweedie (no number listed). The list is dated 21.4.11 and the Note at the bottom of the page reads "Brought to charge on C.V. No 7 dated 21-5-1911" (I am unsure what that means). Another related document showing the eligibility was for the Transvaal clasp and on that record he is shown as W. Tweedie Jr (Junior). That record shows the medal returned on 15.5.11. Not all the recipients on the latter list had their medals returned.

 

Finally on the rolls there is a Pte W Tweedie 99 of New South Wales Mounted Rifles entitled to the QSA and Paardeberg and Relief of Kimberley clasps.

 

A number of possibilities then?

 

BTW There was a Major General W Tweedie around in Africa from presumably as early as 1869 (as a lowly Lieutenant) through to still being on the Army Lists in 1912 - but I am guessing it wasn't him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by DavidOwen

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
ATNOMIS
On 17/03/2019 at 14:20, DavidOwen said:

There is a Pte W Tweedie 5815  (and for that matter a Pte M Tweedie 5814) eligible for the QSA and 1901 clasp having both served in the 42nd Company 12th Battalion Imperial Yeomanry. A second document has W. Tweedie as a Lieut. - overwritten on the Pte. and the clasps both are entitled to are Wittebergen, Cape Colony and Transvaal.

 

There is also another (presumably different) Pte W. Tweedie 32685 of 108th Company Imperial Yeomanry also eligible for 1901/2 clasps on QSA. This soldier's clasp entitlements were Cape Colony, Orange Free State and Transvan (sic).

 

Then there is Bugler W Tweedie 2734 5th Bn Royal Irish Rifles entitled to QSA with Cape Colony and Orange Free State clasps. It may be worth noting that a Captain W Tweedie 289566 2nd Bn Royal Irish Fusiliers  was entitled to a 1945 Palestine clasp whether it is the same man is unknown.

 

Then to cap it all off there is a medal roll detailing a "List of medals returned by the Major General i/c Aministration S.A." referring to the Klerkedorp Town Guard which features on the list one Pte W. Tweedie (no number listed). The list is dated 21.4.11 and the Note at the bottom of the page reads "Brought to charge on C.V. No 7 dated 21-5-1911" (I am unsure what that means). Another related document showing the eligibility was for the Transvaal clasp and on that record he is shown as W. Tweedie Jr (Junior). That record shows the medal returned on 15.5.11. Not all the recipients on the latter list had their medals returned.

 

Finally on the rolls there is a Pte W Tweedie 99 of New South Wales Mounted Rifles entitled to the QSA and Paardeberg and Relief of Kimberley clasps.

 

A number of possibilities then?

 

BTW There was a Major General W Tweedie around in Africa from presumably as early as 1869 (as a lowly Lieutenant) through to still being on the Army Lists in 1912 - but I am guessing it wasn't him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

David

Gives me something to look into.

Many Thanks for your time and post

 

Simon

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...