Pesche Posted 15 March , 2019 Share Posted 15 March , 2019 (edited) Can anyone help me identify the badge on my grandfather Henry Charles Miles's military cap (see enclosed picture)? I don't know what unit he served in, and where. He was born in 1899, so may just about have served towards the end of the war. He is wearing the same uniform in a picture he inscribed with "Alexandria, Egypt, 25 July 1919". I have unsuccessfully searched for his service record. Many thanks, Pesche Edited 15 March , 2019 by Pesche Misspelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 15 March , 2019 Share Posted 15 March , 2019 It's a royal warwickshire cap badge. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools mckenna Posted 15 March , 2019 Share Posted 15 March , 2019 Just for interest, could you show the whole picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesche Posted 15 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 15 March , 2019 Sure! here it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesche Posted 15 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 15 March , 2019 And Craig, many thanks! What would the Royal Warwickshire's deployment have been throughout and after WW1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesche Posted 15 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 15 March , 2019 Can I also ask: Would personnel have retained their orginal service number if they were listed as reservists during WW2"? My grandfather's was: 1463798. I have only managed to obtain his service record for as a reservist for WW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 15 March , 2019 Share Posted 15 March , 2019 3 minutes ago, Pesche said: Can I also ask: Would personnel have retained their orginal service number if they were listed as reservists during WW2"? My grandfather's was: 1463798. I have only managed to obtain his service record for as a reservist for WW2. Hi, 7 figure numbers were introduced after the Great War; the number 1463798 was issued when he enlisted in the Royal Artillery in 1938. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 15 March , 2019 Share Posted 15 March , 2019 Mate, The 1 Garrison Bn of the Warwickshire Regt was in the Cairo area during the war. A number joined the Camel Corps while there. Here a few names of these men; Lyth A or James 13567 Pte att CC (possibly ECC) Sudan Medal 1910 bar Dufar 1916 Ex 1 Gar Bn Royal Warwick Regt McBride James 13512 Sgt att CC (possibly ECC) Sudan Medal 1910 bar Dufar 1916 Ex 1 Gar Bn Royal Warwick Regt Mealing Albert 13575 L/Cpl att CC (possibly ECC) Sudan Medal 1910 bar Dufar 1916 Ex Gloucestershire Regt to 1 Gar Bn Royal Warwick Regt Mokes Alonzo 19122 L/Sgt att CC (possibly ECC) Sudan Medal 1910 bar Dufar 1916 Ex Grenadier Guards (12061) to 1 Gar Bn Royal Warwick Regt to Worcester Regt (72449) Painter Reginald Walter Richard 13578 Pte shown att 5Co 7-17 att Newcombes Force Pow 2-11-17 Ex 1Bn Gloucester Regt (9814) WIA 4-11-14 F&B to 1 Gar Bn Royal Warwick Regt (13578) to 1/4 Cheshire Regt (62978) Parker George T. 13962 L/Cpl att CC (possibly ECC) Sudan Medal 1910 bar Dufar 1916 Ex 1 Gar Bn Royal Warwick Regt Pick Charles W. 13064 Pte att CC (possibly ECC) Sudan Medal 1910 bar Dufar 1916 Ex 1 Gar Bn Royal Warwick Regt Poyer David J 13629 Pte possibly att 5Co 7-17 att Newcombes Force Pow 2-11-17 Ex 1 Gar Bn Royal Warwick Regt to 1/4 Cheshire Regt (63032) Cheers S.B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesche Posted 15 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 15 March , 2019 Many thanks GWF1967 and stevebecker. This is all very helpful. If the MoD has no records (they only have them from 1938 onwards for him), is there any chance of finding anything in the National Archives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools mckenna Posted 15 March , 2019 Share Posted 15 March , 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pesche said: Sure! here it is Thanks! Edited 15 March , 2019 by Jools mckenna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesche Posted 15 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 15 March , 2019 Lovely enhancement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools mckenna Posted 15 March , 2019 Share Posted 15 March , 2019 1 minute ago, Pesche said: Lovely enhancement! Thanks. Hope I got the eye colour correct... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DorsetDan Posted 16 March , 2019 Share Posted 16 March , 2019 9 hours ago, Jools mckenna said: Thanks. Hope I got the eye colour correct... Wow , great work Jools . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 16 March , 2019 Share Posted 16 March , 2019 13 hours ago, Pesche said: And Craig, many thanks! What would the Royal Warwickshire's deployment have been throughout and after WW1? If you look at the header on the Home Page, you will see a link, 'Long, Long Trail'. Click on that and you will find lots of facts about the Royal Warwicks. As he's not wearing territorial-style shoulder titles it is unlikely (though nt impossible) he wasn't a territorial. As Steve Beker says, the 1st Garrison Battalion was in Egypt, but other battalions were out east and may well have transited through Egypt en route for home after the war. I suggest he looks too fit (if a photo can tell such things) and healthy to bei in a Garrison Battlion, which was generally the preserve of older, unfitter, chaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesche Posted 16 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 16 March , 2019 Thanks Steven! Are you saying (am a bit confused by the double negatives ) he probably WASN'T a Territorial? And if he wasn't in a Garrison batallion, he might have seen action further east? I'm beginning to think he was in the 9th Batallion. Problem is: where can I confirm that, with all the records burnt or lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 16 March , 2019 Share Posted 16 March , 2019 Have you tried the medal rolls? They sometimes. give a man's battalion(s) for his overseas service. Available via Ancestry; you might pick him up by searching R. Warks records using his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 17 March , 2019 Share Posted 17 March , 2019 15 hours ago, Pesche said: Thanks Steven! Are you saying (am a bit confused by the double negatives ) he probably WASN'T a Territorial? And if he wasn't in a Garrison batallion, he might have seen action further east? I'm beginning to think he was in the 9th Batallion. Problem is: where can I confirm that, with all the records burnt or lost? I suspect he's NOT a territorial, and may well NOT have been in a Garrison battalion. Have you checked any medal cards to see what medals he received (if any)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesche Posted 17 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 17 March , 2019 Many thanks! No I haven't tried checking medal cards yet, so will need to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 17 March , 2019 Share Posted 17 March , 2019 That would tell us if he served overseas, and also (possibly) which theatre he served in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesche Posted 17 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 17 March , 2019 Great, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesche Posted 18 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 18 March , 2019 Is it possible, if you were in the Royal Warwickshire Regiment, to have served in different batallions at different times during and just after WW1? In addition to the photograph on which my Granddad had written "Alexandria, Egypt, 15 July 1919", we have found another one with him in uniform (no cap), on the back of which someone has written "in France", but it's undated. My grandfather was born in 1899, so would have been conscripted in 1917, I presume, but may have volunteered earlier, and I don't know how old you had to be to volunteer. I have so far found no reference to any medals in my searches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 18 March , 2019 Share Posted 18 March , 2019 34 minutes ago, Pesche said: Is it possible, if you were in the Royal Warwickshire Regiment, to have served in different batallions at different times during and just after WW1? Yes, and even in different regiments. Does the bare-headed picture show anything else - shoulder titles, sleeve badges, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesche Posted 18 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 18 March , 2019 I don't think so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 18 March , 2019 Share Posted 18 March , 2019 1 hour ago, Pesche said: I don't think so... There is a curved shoulder title; Any chance of a close up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesche Posted 18 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 18 March , 2019 Blowing it up just blurs it. No better than magnifying the one attached, I'm afraid. In fact, I think it's the same shoulder title as the one in the picture that Jools enhanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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