PrussianGarde Posted 12 March , 2019 Share Posted 12 March , 2019 I just bought an iron cross 2nd class for 50 usd and it comes with an original ribbon and a certificate of authenticity. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P. Moore Posted 12 March , 2019 Share Posted 12 March , 2019 It looks a little too minty to me. Compare to this one I bought from an antique dealer in Germany 40 years ago. I'd also say that you paid too much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanA Posted 12 March , 2019 Share Posted 12 March , 2019 I'd agree that it looks fresh out of the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrussianGarde Posted 12 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 12 March , 2019 Well this guy had 3 for sale and this was the best looking one. He said that it’s been in his family kept safe in a small box since the 1920’s. The guy is from Germany and this was what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley John Lindsay Posted 13 March , 2019 Share Posted 13 March , 2019 (edited) Dear PrussianGarde, If you have already paid the fifty bucks (peanuts in this game), the question is academic. Generally, I would advise to wait until you see such an item that it obviously genuine - like the EKII group shown by John P. Moore, for example, which crop up frequently. Look for such items and turn a deaf ear to such stories such as 'kept in a box' (even if it is true!). And where is that 'certificate of authenticity'? As I have already advised elsewhere, loose EKIIs are more likely to be Fakes, than are those sewn into mounted groups, of which I attach another example. Kindest regards, Kim. Edited 13 March , 2019 by Kimberley John Lindsay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrussianGarde Posted 13 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 13 March , 2019 ok thank you. Does the marking make any difference. I know that it is probably easy to forge them but once I receive the item I will update you on specifics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 13 March , 2019 Share Posted 13 March , 2019 I think it looks okay. I think it's a KO marked piece. Fakes usually don't have a clear maker's mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrussianGarde Posted 13 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 13 March , 2019 Yes. I know for sure that it says KO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrussianGarde Posted 29 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 29 March , 2019 (edited) It just came today and it definitely feels original and the makers mark is very clear with certificate of authenticity. Edited 29 March , 2019 by PrussianGarde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley John Lindsay Posted 29 March , 2019 Share Posted 29 March , 2019 Dear PrussianGarde, Sure, the EKII looks authentic, but I am swayed more by the look of the decoration, rather than the so-called "Certificate of Authenticity"... Kindest regards, Kim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekb Posted 30 March , 2019 Share Posted 30 March , 2019 I don’t know enough about EK’s to really comment, what I would like to say that in all aspects of militaria collecting, there are very wide variances in condition, take for instance British Victorian percussion items, usually those that were kept in the UK are in much better condition than those sent to India for example, all items have a history, but unfortunately more and more the history can be very short indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOK4 Posted 30 March , 2019 Share Posted 30 March , 2019 (edited) Hello, I agree that the medal is original. I wouldn't go as far as guarantee the originality of the ribbon though, but that is often a replacement. Cheers, Jan Edited 30 March , 2019 by AOK4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley John Lindsay Posted 30 March , 2019 Share Posted 30 March , 2019 Dear All, Yes, I agree with Jan. Having said that, one cannot be dogmatic: by all means collect singleton EKIIs... Kindest regards, Kim. PS: Securing a group solves both problems and often have interesting makers' "tags" on the backing: NB: The group attached has the ribbons in a sort of "reverse" fold - perhaps for NoK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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