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Noor

Hi all,

 

I don't know much how to read RN rating cards. Just wanted to ask is here anything interesting as well or ordinary ww1 service?43343_366_0-00210.jpg.6a353389e3afb69720692afeb3a0d05d.jpg

 

Like I understand HMS Warspite was in Jutland?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

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Mark1959

The most significant posting is Warspite. It was at the Battle of Jutland in 1916. The ship was only commissioned in March 1915 and he was thus part of its original crew.

Ther were casualties at Jutland and the ship was holed about 150 times. 

He appears on the crew list

https://www.jutlandcrewlists.org/warspite

Acted as escort to The German Fleet as it went to Scapa Flow in November 1918.

Naval specialists should be able to provide more background

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seaJane
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Here for his previous ship CHARYBDIS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astraea-class_cruiser (looks as if training/promotion to Leading Seaman happened during his intervening time on the books of shore establishment VIVID I).

 

 

 

Wiki on WARSPITE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Warspite_(03)

Edited by seaJane

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horatio2

He was issued with his trio of medals after the war when he was serving in HMS WATCHMAN.

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Noor

Thank you so much! That's brilliant information! Warspite name was familiar because its on his medal and I saw that it was in Jutland alright but wasn't sure how is possible to confirm that he was there at that time. This original crew list is handy! Also HMS Watchman service looks fascinating - especially because he was from Co.Cork, he was on the Irish coast then on the same ship during the Irish Civil War!

 

I am collecting mainly medals to the Irish units but somehow, but I picked up his LSGC medal (named to the same HMS Warspite) and also his BWM. His 15 Star and VM must be out there somewhere as well.

 

Among with the same medal lot I got as well West and East Africa medal with "Benin 1897" clasp (HMS Phoebe) to another Cork man - 150965 George Williams. Looks like this other lad served as well during the WW1 and finished his service in the shore establishment "Colleen" 1919 when he was invalided.

 

 

 

 

Here are his files

Service file 1.jpg

Servie file 2.jpg

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horatio2

PO Williams' service was all in shore establishments except for the first three months of the war when he was mobilised from the Royal Fleet Reserve and served in the Armed Merchant Cruiser (AMC) HMS ALSATIAN

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Noor

Thank you for your help! And I assume rest of the time he was in Colleen - a shore establishment in Cork, where he was from anyway. 1917 invalided out.

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horatio2
36 minutes ago, Noor said:

I assume rest of the time he was in Colleen

Apart from five months in Devonport Barracks (HMS VIVID) Nov 1914 to Apr 1915. He served in COLLEEN from then until the end of August 1919 when he was invalided.

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Noor

Thank you! I saw 1917 somehow! :)

 

Probably there are no sources to find out the reason why he was invalided? At that time already in Cork (known as "Rebel County") had lots of disturbances already.

 

taking into consideration of his old age he must landed on fairly easy position there I guess.

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horatio2
3 minutes ago, Noor said:

Probably there are no sources to find out the reason why he was invalided?

Does his record not say "Fracture Right [something]"? Is it "Hand" or "Femur" - difficult to make out.

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Noor
16 hours ago, horatio2 said:

Does his record not say "Fracture Right [something]"? Is it "Hand" or "Femur" - difficult to make out.

 

I must go to the Specsavers! I saw that invalided and then steering absolutely wrong area of the file! Thank you again and I am sorry to bother with so silly questions when the answer was actually front of my nose here.

 

 

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horatio2

Can you tell us the precise cause?

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seaJane

The script loses definition when I zoom in, but I'm wondering if it's "Fracture Right Forearm", the writer having run the last word off the page and onto the edge of the page behind.

 

sJ

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ARABIS

To me it reads as Fracture Right Humerus.

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