rolt968 Posted 4 March , 2019 Share Posted 4 March , 2019 Lieutenant Ronald D Simson, RFA was killed on 14 September 1914. He was a Scottish Rugby International. (He is the first name on "my" next war memorial.) I cannot find an officer's file for him in the TNA index nor can I find a long number for him. However I could have missed something, especially in the file of long numbers. Can anyone please point me in the direction of his officer's file? RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 4 March , 2019 Admin Share Posted 4 March , 2019 Sorry, coming up dry here too (even with the extra "p") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxD Posted 4 March , 2019 Share Posted 4 March , 2019 (edited) Can't find at NA either but there is a long bio on FMP in the British Army, bond of sacrifice, officers died in the Great War. Max Edited 4 March , 2019 by MaxD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 4 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 4 March , 2019 2 hours ago, DavidOwen said: Sorry, coming up dry here too (even with the extra "p") 2 hours ago, MaxD said: Can't find at NA either but there is a long bio on FMP in the British Army, bond of sacrifice, officers died in the Great War. Max Thank you both! I had not seen the Bond of Sacrifice entry before it will be very useful. There is a brief (two and a bit lines or so) entry in de Ruvigny in which the mother's name is a blank. (I'm a but relieved that I hadn't missed his entry in the TNA catalogue or the long number file!) RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 4 March , 2019 Share Posted 4 March , 2019 (edited) He has an entry and a picture on p.198-199 of Nigel McCrery's 'Into touch: rugby internationals killed in the Great War". Entered the RMA Woolwich in 1909 which may account for why he doesn't have the typical officer's record? Edited 4 March , 2019 by seaJane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 5 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 5 March , 2019 11 hours ago, seaJane said: He has an entry and a picture on p.198-199 of Nigel McCrery's 'Into touch: rugby internationals killed in the Great War". Thanks Jane. I have a copy of Into Touch. It's where I found out that he was an International. 11 hours ago, seaJane said: Entered the RMA Woolwich in 1909 which may account for why he doesn't have the typical officer's record? That's a useful suggestion. I was surprised that there wasn't even a long number. RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxD Posted 5 March , 2019 Share Posted 5 March , 2019 (edited) Some (all) of the records including his CWGC main entry place him in 16 Battery 116 Brigade RFA. That is not correct, apart from anything else, 116 Brigade didn't go to war until the end of 1915 and didn't have a 16 Battery. He served with 116 Battery in 26 Brigade RFA. The war diary WO 95/1250 records (at the end of the September diary) his death on 15 September 1914 as does the 1st Division CRA diary which includes some sketches of the battery positions at the time. Max Edited 5 March , 2019 by MaxD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 5 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 5 March , 2019 3 hours ago, MaxD said: Some (all) of the records including his CWGC main entry place him in 16 Battery 116 Brigade RFA. That is not correct, apart from anything else, 116 Brigade didn't go to war until the end of 1915 and didn't have a 16 Battery. He served with 116 Battery in 26 Brigade RFA. The war diary WO 95/1250 records (at the end of the September diary) his death on 15 September 1914 as does the 1st Division CRA diary which includes some sketches of the battery positions at the time. Max Thank you very much, Max. I wouldn't have picked that up. RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rflory Posted 6 March , 2019 Share Posted 6 March , 2019 There is also biographical information on Simson in the following: 1. Sewell, EHD. The Rugby Football Internationals Roll of Honour. 1919 2. The Edinburgh Academy Register 1824-1914 3. War Supplement to Edinburgh Academy Register, 1921 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 6 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 6 March , 2019 1 hour ago, rflory said: There is also biographical information on Simson in the following: 1. Sewell, EHD. The Rugby Football Internationals Roll of Honour. 1919 2. The Edinburgh Academy Register 1824-1914 3. War Supplement to Edinburgh Academy Register, 1921 Many thanks. I will see if I can get them on my next day at the National Library of Scotland. RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 6 March , 2019 Share Posted 6 March , 2019 No. 2 is on archive.org. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 6 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 6 March , 2019 46 minutes ago, seaJane said: No. 2 is on archive.org. Thank you. I tried downloading but it stuck. I will try again tomorrow. RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley John Lindsay Posted 6 March , 2019 Share Posted 6 March , 2019 Dear Dick, Good work! Kindest regards, Kim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 7 March , 2019 Share Posted 7 March , 2019 7 hours ago, rflory said: . Sewell, EHD. The Rugby Football Internationals Roll of Honour. 1919 Reprinted by Naval & Military Press, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 7 March , 2019 Share Posted 7 March , 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, rolt968 said: 2. The Edinburgh Academy Register 1824-1914 3. War Supplement to Edinburgh Academy Register, 1921 Available to purchase as a single CD, searchable and printable, here: https://genealogysupplies.com/product/School-College-University-Records/Scotland-Edinburgh-Academy-Register-1824-1914-and-War-Supplement/ Edited 7 March , 2019 by seaJane correcting format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolt968 Posted 7 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 7 March , 2019 8 hours ago, seaJane said: Available to purchase as a single CD, searchable and printable, here: https://genealogysupplies.com/product/School-College-University-Records/Scotland-Edinburgh-Academy-Register-1824-1914-and-War-Supplement/ Excellent. Thank you. RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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