paul guthrie Posted 26 January , 2005 Share Posted 26 January , 2005 I'm sure costs continue and it's a new year, let's make another contribution pals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthergw Posted 26 January , 2005 Share Posted 26 January , 2005 Exactly what I was thinking but I can't find the bit that tells me how to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 26 January , 2005 Share Posted 26 January , 2005 Thank you, Paul. Tom - the bit you need is in my signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul guthrie Posted 31 January , 2005 Author Share Posted 31 January , 2005 I'm bringing this up again because I think it's important, there are lots of us who use this daily - I'm worse than that! , and it looks like costs are increasing. A one time gift is not enough, we need to re up every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyHollinger Posted 31 January , 2005 Share Posted 31 January , 2005 Done so ... it's not hard and well worth it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pte1643 Posted 1 February , 2005 Share Posted 1 February , 2005 Guys, (and gals). How about giving us a "Ball Park" figure. I'd like to contribute, but I'm not loaded, and wouldn't want to come across miserly, I have a figure in my head. Thanks. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul guthrie Posted 1 February , 2005 Author Share Posted 1 February , 2005 Mark I don't know if Chris wants the amount people have given posted, if he does I will put what I have given in another post, for now I'll email you. Chris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andigger Posted 1 February , 2005 Share Posted 1 February , 2005 Paul... Just my two cents (pun intended) I would not encourage people to reveal how much they donate. Especially in the cyber world where a lot can be lost in transition numbers can also create animosity. A suggested donation amount might be a good guideline though. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil_York Posted 1 February , 2005 Share Posted 1 February , 2005 Please correct me if I am wrong but I understand the Forum rules state that charitable appeals are not to be made in postings. Neil York Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 1 February , 2005 Share Posted 1 February , 2005 Hardly charity, Neil - more enlightened self interest! Phil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Wills Posted 2 February , 2005 Share Posted 2 February , 2005 Please correct me if I am wrong but I understand the Forum rules state that charitable appeals are not to be made in postings. Neil York Correct Neil. It was implemented with a heavy heart, and our debate on the ruling can be found on the Forum. The specific guideline is contained in the Advertising section of the Forum Rules (press blue Forum Rules top left of screen) You will not solicit or promote any commercial acivity in which you have an interest. A link to a website, or text reference to a commercial activity, is permitted in your signature, but must be 8 words or less and in small font. No banners or other images are allowed in the signature. Posts that are deemed by moderators to be promoting commercial interest will be deleted, unless you have specifically approached the forum owner (Chris Baker) and obtained permission to post. This ruling includes charitable appeals. Not unreasonably, Chris Baker is the exception; but since this website is his creation, and our presence here makes maintaining it increasingly expensive, the unobtrustive donation link in his signature is entirely appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 2 February , 2005 Share Posted 2 February , 2005 Heartily agree with Paul, Phil, Kate et al And for those of us who live in cyber-bandit country Chris will also accept old fashioned cheques in Sterling His postal address details can be found on The Long, Long Trail Regards Michael D.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 2 February , 2005 Share Posted 2 February , 2005 That's a good one, Neil! I like it. It's not a charitable appeal. The money goes to Chris Baker Mega Enterprises Inc, so it is advertising, rather than an appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 2 February , 2005 Share Posted 2 February , 2005 How much does it cost to run any website? Kath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 2 February , 2005 Share Posted 2 February , 2005 Kath, a basic, few pages site can cost very little. Say £50 per year. (You can of course do it for nothing but at a penalty of lots of popus, advertising, etc). Costs begin to increase when you need to add technical sophistication, like databases. But even then it is not a huge increase. The real costs kick in when you need to add disk space and/or bandwidth. Disk space is connected with how many files are held on disk (each page, each image, for example), and how big they are. Adding disk space costs but is not unreasonable (computing storage costs being quite cheap per Mb if bought in huge quantities). Bandwidth is the killer. It is driven by traffic (number of pages hit, how big the page download is, etc), so popular sites and those with lotsof images really rack up demand on bandwidth. Cost examples, using actuals from the host I use: Basic hosted web space including a domain name: from £13.99 per year. The level of hosting service I need to run this site: £90 per year. Extra disk space from £1.09 per Mb if you buy a little, to £0.45 per Mb if you buy 500Mb. Extra bandwidth costs I can't find right now but I can tell you that bandwidth charges for this site have run at more than £100 per month at times. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 2 February , 2005 Share Posted 2 February , 2005 Wheeeeeww! Thanks, Chris. Kath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pte1643 Posted 2 February , 2005 Share Posted 2 February , 2005 Hi again Pals. Thanks for the email Paul. No harm intended by my part, just asking for a rough idea. Certainly not wishing for members to give any personal information. Thanks to Chris, and the rest of the "Pals", I've learnt so much already from being here just a short time, thought it about time to "Chip-In". Hope it all helps. Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDick Posted 2 February , 2005 Share Posted 2 February , 2005 Cliched, I know, but the cheque is in the post - you do still accept Polish Zlottis and Bell Fruit tokens, eh Chris? Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piscator Posted 2 February , 2005 Share Posted 2 February , 2005 Its not as much as I would like to donate but its given gladly, which is more than I can say for what the chancellor takes out of my pension! Keep it going its a fabulous site Len Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbarchetta Posted 2 February , 2005 Share Posted 2 February , 2005 Chris, Thanks for that breakdown. It was all going so well, and I was thinking it all sounded pretty cheap really, 'til the last bit !!! Good grief ! So long as donations continue, and mean you don't have to dig too deeply into your own pocket - or at all, the time you invest already goes above and beyond... You'll get your reward in heaven... think of all those veterans who will want to buy you a drink !!! Cheers again Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Saunders Posted 2 February , 2005 Share Posted 2 February , 2005 Kath, a basic, few pages site can cost very little. Say £50 per year. (You can of course do it for nothing but at a penalty of lots of popus, advertising, etc). Costs begin to increase when you need to add technical sophistication, like databases. But even then it is not a huge increase. The real costs kick in when you need to add disk space and/or bandwidth. Disk space is connected with how many files are held on disk (each page, each image, for example), and how big they are. Adding disk space costs but is not unreasonable (computing storage costs being quite cheap per Mb if bought in huge quantities). Bandwidth is the killer. It is driven by traffic (number of pages hit, how big the page download is, etc), so popular sites and those with lotsof images really rack up demand on bandwidth. Cost examples, using actuals from the host I use: Basic hosted web space including a domain name: from £13.99 per year. The level of hosting service I need to run this site: £90 per year. Extra disk space from £1.09 per Mb if you buy a little, to £0.45 per Mb if you buy 500Mb. Extra bandwidth costs I can't find right now but I can tell you that bandwidth charges for this site have run at more than £100 per month at times. Hope that helps. Chris, I really think its time you started asking for an annual subscription ... not sure how you can achieve this and the ultimate aims of the Forum but something along the lines of 3 months free membership for the "newbies" to the Forum and then £5 annual membership for the next 9 months - and only 2 memberships per PC identity. This might not be the best idea but I am sure with some brainstorming the right way forward can be found ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armourersergeant Posted 2 February , 2005 Share Posted 2 February , 2005 I have no problem with paying a subscription and do so for being a friend of the Centre of First World War Studies at Birmingham Uni and my WFA membership so five quid is a snip and would pay more. I have donated previously and will again but i do have concerns that there may be some out there that can not afford to donate/subscribe and are stopped from participating due to this. That said it does seem to be a case of rising costs as more contributions are posted etc, so may be it is the only way. It is after all a cheap addiction, and well worth it. regards Arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Wills Posted 3 February , 2005 Share Posted 3 February , 2005 How about this: We contact Chris and tell him how much we can pay. He then sorts us into 12 groups who between them will contribute a total of £100, and each group is assigned to a particular month of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pte1643 Posted 3 February , 2005 Share Posted 3 February , 2005 How about this. The forum has 6072 members as of 18:35 today. If everybody paid just £1 a year, thats £6072 p.a. People would most likely chip in more, say £5, and thats a massive £30360 p.a. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 3 February , 2005 Share Posted 3 February , 2005 ...and I could retire on the proceeds! Pals, your generosity really is appreciated. Thank you to all who have contributed recently - I am just sorry I rarely have time for timely individual thanks. But back to a firm principle that I believe in ... this forum remains free for all to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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