FenClare Posted 3 March , 2019 Share Posted 3 March , 2019 Researching ANZAC Charles Henry Hatt regimental no 1228. Charles won it on 31 Oct 1917 . Can anyone tell me how? Also the following year [ 20 July 1918] he was Reprimanded for disobedience of orders ( apparently in England?) He had been gassed 3 months earlier on 16 April 1918 Can anyone tell me (a) how he won the MM? (b) What action his regiment was in when he was gassed? [He was sent to Abbeville for treatment apparently] and (c) why he was reprimanded 3 months later in England for disobeying orders? Many thanks FenClare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 3 March , 2019 Share Posted 3 March , 2019 (edited) Hi FenClare HERE is the Gazette (Edinburgh) entry 16 Jan 18 (London a day or two earlier) Scroll back through pages to find header, but looks like an awards for continuous efforts, rather than specific. regards Jon Edited 3 March , 2019 by jonbem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 3 March , 2019 Share Posted 3 March , 2019 Do you know which Infantry Brigade/Battalion he was in? Choice of War Diairies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 3 March , 2019 Share Posted 3 March , 2019 Found. 23rd Battalion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbem Posted 3 March , 2019 Share Posted 3 March , 2019 The WAR DIARY not digitised so can't look up on Ancestry Reference: WO 95/3332 Description: 6 Australian Infantry Brigade: 23 Australian Infantry Battalion Date:1916 Jan. - 1918 Apr. Held by: The National Archives, Kew Reference: WO 95/3333 Description: 6 Australian Infantry Brigade: 23 Australian Infantry Battalion Date:1918 May - Oct. Held by: The National Archives, Kew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedCoat Posted 3 March , 2019 Share Posted 3 March , 2019 (edited) This is how he won the MM - Kind regards, Daniel Edited 3 March , 2019 by RedCoat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedCoat Posted 3 March , 2019 Share Posted 3 March , 2019 You may find these witness statements concerning Hatts death of some use - Kind regards, Daniel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedCoat Posted 3 March , 2019 Share Posted 3 March , 2019 And if you don't have it, here is a photograph of him - Kind regards, Daniel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire22 Posted 3 March , 2019 Share Posted 3 March , 2019 Have a look at the Australian War Memorial website for Unit and Commander's War Diaries Digitised copies of selected original war diaries recording the daily activities of Australian Army units are available for the following conflicts: which the 23rd Battalion is held and has a map of the area of operations for October 1917 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenClare Posted 9 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 9 March , 2019 Dear All Thank you so much for all this information and the picture! I shall be putting together an article about this "EnglishANZAC" for the Hatt Family History Society newsletter. It is one way of commemorating a man who left (as far as I know) no descendants. His brother Thomas Hatt also apparently won a Military award of some kind. Thank you all FenClare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmelling1979 Posted 9 March , 2019 Share Posted 9 March , 2019 Not sure If you have not seen this Charles Henry HATT Regimental number 1228 Place of birth Chelsea, London School Westminster City Secondary School, London, England Other training Solicitor's clerk Age on arrival in Australia 21 Religion Church of England Occupation Farm labourer Address Mildura, Victoria Marital status Single Age at embarkation 22 Next of kin Father, Thomas Hatt, 4 Gertrude Street, Cheslea, London, England Enlistment date 5 April 1915 Rank on enlistment Private Unit name 23rd Battalion, D Company AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/40/1 Embarkation details Unit embarked from Melbourne, Victoria, on board HMAT A14 Euripides on 10 May 1915 Rank from Nominal Roll Private Unit from Nominal Roll 23rd Battalion Fate Killed in Action 17 August 1918 Place of death or wounding France Age at death from cemetery records 25 Place of burial Heath Cemetery (Plot V, Row F, Grave No 19), Harbonnieres, France Panel number, Roll of Honour, Australian War Memorial 99 Miscellaneous information from cemetery records Parents: Thomas and Elizabeth HATT, The Lodge, Furzfield, Eastwood Road, Leigh-on-Sea, England Medals Military Medal Source: 'Commonwealth Gazette' No. 76 Date: 23 May 1918 Other details Medals: Military Medal, 1914-15 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools mckenna Posted 9 March , 2019 Share Posted 9 March , 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, FenClare said: Would you like me to attempt to colourise the photo? Edited 9 March , 2019 by Jools mckenna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david murdoch Posted 9 March , 2019 Share Posted 9 March , 2019 Charles service record is online - being Australian archives. His brother Sgt Thomas Edgar Hatt MM 590293 1st/18th London Regiment Died 21/3/1918 He's on the Arras Memorial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenClare Posted 10 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 10 March , 2019 Dear Jools and David Thank you for this - I was aware that his father was a gardener and at some earlier stage was in the Eton area. What is interesting about Charles is that at one stage he aspires to be a solicitors clerk but then this does not seem to work out and after about a year he decides to go out to Australia as a "Farm Labourer". Why was it that this clearly talented and intelligent young man did not continue on with the law but went back to the manual labouring career of his father? And also chose to leave the country? Maybe he found law dull or had some romance which did not work out. One can only speculate. Thank you David for identifying the service details of his brother Thomas. Regards Fenclare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenClare Posted 19 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 19 March , 2019 Re Charles Henry Hatt Thank you all for your help - possibly the reason that Charles gave up the law and decided to emigrate to Australia as a "Farm Student" in 1914 was that his younger sister Florence had died of TB in 1912. Jools coloured photo made this young soldier all too real and the picture of the tombstone which his parents set up to commemorate their Fallen sons was unbelievable poignant. It has a quotation beginning "Dear boys of my heart". Military records say that Charles' body was retrieved by a Private Schultz. Bearing in mind this is a German surname - can anyone tell me if Private Schultz was an ANZAC (possibly of German origin) or possibly a captured German doing stretcher duty? Any ideas gratefully received. Regards and thanks FenClare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools mckenna Posted 19 March , 2019 Share Posted 19 March , 2019 6 hours ago, FenClare said: Jools coloured photo made this young soldier all too real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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