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stevebecker

Mates,

 

A Yank mate wanted to know more about the losses of ships around the Port of Sinope Turkey during the war.

 

He gave me this, can it be confirmed?

 

Looking for sources on this and other operations and of course detail.

In November 1914, Russian Admiral Ebergardt led a sweep of the coast sinking several steamers and dozens of sailing ships. Do not know the extent of the sweep.

In the first week of January, 1915, at Sinope a Russian cruiser discovered the Turkish cruiser Medjidieh convoying a transport. After a short engagement the Medjidieh was put to flight, and the transport sunk.

On January 6, 1915, the Russian Black Sea fleet ran into the Breslau and the Hamidieh and damaged them both in a running fight. A week later Russian torpedo boats sank several Turkish supply boats near Sinope.

I see a steamer Georigos sunk in early 1915 on a raid at Sinope. I cannot find this ship in any registry.
"The beaten Turk". The Times (40756). London. 20 January 1915. col C, p. 7. There was not much naval censorship in the early months of the war to include Jan-May 1915 so I suspect it is accurate in terms of place, name, date. Well maybe the name is mistranslated. I thought the steamer may have been Bulgarian with that name.

On Jan 25 Russian ships sank a a Turkish vessel with the entire their entire aeroplane fleet onboard.-unconfirmed.

On Jan 25,26,27 torpedo boats swept the coast and sank several Sailing ships. On the 28 bombarding Trebizond. The same boat then attacked Rizah and sank several sailing ships. Looks like a sweep from West to East. 

I have this (unconfirmed) gem from the NY Times: LONDON, July 20. -- A fleet of fifty-nine Turkish sailing vessels laden with war materials for the Turkish Army of the Caucasus has been destroyed by Russian torpedo-boat destroyers, according to a dispatch from Sebastopol to Reuter's Telegram Company.

Also on Sept. 17 1915, Russian torpedoe boats raided the coast near Sinope and sank a quantity of sailing vessels laden with munitions.

By the end of 1915 Russian sweeps had sunk dozens of steamers and hundreds of sailing vessels. (Would love to know the details)

I was recommended to read North of Gallipoli: The Black Sea Fleet at War, 1914-1917 and Halbmond und Kaiseradler: Goeben und Breslau am Bosporus, 1914-1918

 

Can these ships be confirmed and any other ships lost around that area?

 

Cheers

 

S.B

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stevebecker
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Mate,

 

Thanks I passed that on.

 

I did notice some thing on another site about ships in the Ottoman Fleet;

TRANSPORTS AND ARMED STEAMERS

Bezm-i Alem 4,570 1906 (bought) Britain Sunk in 1914
Tir-i Müjgan (depot ship) 4,050 1906 (bought) Britain Scrapped in 1920
Eser-i Cedid 1,520 1909 (bought) Britain Sunk in 1937
Mithat Paşa 4,450 1911 (bought) Britain Sunk in 1914
Reşit Paşa 4,450 1911 (bought) Britain Scrapped in 1953
Plevne 1,150 1912 (bought) Britain Sunk in 1915
Urla 4,180 1914 (seized) Britain Scrapped in 1954
Nara 300 1914 (seized) ? Sunk in 1915
Mahmut Şevket Paşa 2,690 1915 (seized) Britain Scrapped in 1935
Gülcemal 5,000 1874 / 1910 (bought) Britain Scrapped in 1950
Bandırma 280 ? ? ?
Derne ? ? ? ?
Halep 3,684 ? ? Sunk in 1915
Şam 3,660 ? ? ?
Karadeniz 3,660 1905 / ? (bought) Netherlands Scrapped in 1951
Akdeniz ? 1890 / 1911 (bought) Netherlands Scrapped in 1930
Alemdar 362 1898 Denmark Out of service in 1954
Neveser 362 1890 Britain Sunk in 1917
Kızılırmak 1,945 ? ? Sunk in 1915
Yeşilırmak 865 ? ? Sunk in 1915
Gelibolu 280 ? ? ?
Edremit 280 ? ? Sunk in 1917
Mersin ? ? ? ?
İnebolu ? ? ? ?
Hüdavendigar 820 ? ? ?
Bosporus 2,990 ? ? Sunk in 1915
Rehber 280 ? ? Sunk in 1915
Ceyhun 3,500 ? ? ?
Zonguldak 1,550 ? ? ?
Zafer 330 ? ? ?
Derince 3,300 ? ? ?
Seyhun 3,000 ? ? ?
Uğurola 960 ? ? Sunk in 1915
Patmos 1,900 ? ? Sunk in 1916
Vatan 520 ? ? Out of service in 1916
Resan ? ? ? Sunk in 1916
Suhulet (ferry) ? 1870 Britain Scrapped in 1961
Sahilbent (ferry) ? 1871 Britain Scrapped in 1998
Gazal (tugboat) 182 1910 / 1912 (bought) Britain Out of service in 1954
Tir-i Müjgan (depot ship) 4,050 1906 (bought) Britain Scrapped in 1920
Eser-i Cedid 1,520 1909 (bought) Britain Sunk in 1937
Mithat Paşa 4,450 1911 (bought) Britain Sunk in 1914
Reşit Paşa 4,450 1911 (bought) Britain Scrapped in 1953
Plevne 1,150 1912 (bought) Britain Sunk in 1915
Urla 4,180 1914 (seized) Britain Scrapped in 1954
Nara 300 1914 (seized) ? Sunk in 1915
Mahmut Şevket Paşa 2,690 1915 (seized) Britain Scrapped in 1935
Gülcemal 5,000 1874 / 1910 (bought) Britain Scrapped in 1950
Bandırma 280 ? ? ?
Derne ? ? ? ?
Halep 3,684 ? ? Sunk in 1915
Şam 3,660 ? ? ?
Karadeniz 3,660 1905 / ? (bought) Netherlands Scrapped in 1951
Akdeniz ? 1890 / 1911 (bought) Netherlands Scrapped in 1930
Alemdar 362 1898 Denmark Out of service in 1954
Neveser 362 1890 Britain Sunk in 1917
Kızılırmak 1,945 ? ? Sunk in 1915
Yeşilırmak 865 ? ? Sunk in 1915
Gelibolu 280 ? ? ?
Edremit 280 ? ? Sunk in 1917
Mersin ? ? ? ?
İnebolu ? ? ? ?
Hüdavendigar 820 ? ? ?
Bosporus 2,990 ? ? Sunk in 1915
Rehber 280 ? ? Sunk in 1915
Ceyhun 3,500 ? ? ?
Zonguldak 1,550 ? ? ?
Zafer 330 ? ? ?
Derince 3,300 ? ? ?
Seyhun 3,000 ? ? ?
Uğurola 960 ? ? Sunk in 1915
Patmos 1,900 ? ? Sunk in 1916
Vatan 520 ? ? Out of service in 1916
Resan ? ? ? Sunk in 1916
Suhulet (ferry) ? 1870 Britain Scrapped in 1961
Sahilbent (ferry) ? 1871 Britain Scrapped in 1998
Gazal (tugboat) 182 1910 / 1912 (bought) Britain Out of service in 1954

 

Details on those lost during the war are not mentioned, I would asume that a number were lost in the Black Sea?

 

Cheers


S.B

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James A Pratt III

The book "the Ottoman Steam Navy 1827-1923" lists the Ottoman merchant ships sunk or damaged during WW I

 

see also the book "The Russian Fleet 1914-1917"

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Felix C

Thanks Man. That was me asking. I saw a veritable coven of Ottoman enthusiasts at another forum and asked there. 

Have several books enroute on the topic.  

 

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