iristaylor Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 Fellow Researchers You are so good at coming up trumps with great information, I am hoping that some of you know something about this group during WW1. Are there any records of men who joined? I know that 9000 died during the War. I think my chap, William Gates, did not go abroad to Africa so I assume there were groups throughout the UK? Cant seem to find much about them or the men who joined. There is a lot about Empire recruits. Any thoughts most gratefully accepted. Iris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 21 minutes ago, iristaylor said: Fellow Researchers You are so good at coming up trumps with great information, I am hoping that some of you know something about this group during WW1. Are there any records of men who joined? I know that 9000 died during the War. I think my chap, William Gates, did not go abroad to Africa so I assume there were groups throughout the UK? Cant seem to find much about them or the men who joined. There is a lot about Empire recruits. Any thoughts most gratefully accepted. Iris Did William die ? Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 We have had several a number of threads about the Legion: https://www.greatwarforum.org › Serving in the Great War › Units and formations Medal Riband Identification - Medals Legion of Frontiersmen - Other Great War Chat 25th Battalion Royal Fusiliers (Legion of Frontiersmen) - Sub ... H troop manchester frontiersmen - Units and formations More results from www.greatwarforum.org Moonraker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iristaylor Posted 27 February , 2019 Author Share Posted 27 February , 2019 2 hours ago, ss002d6252 said: Did William die ? Craig No! dont know anything about his time - there is only a photo, which I cant scan at the moment but there are no stripes on his tunic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 Iris The Legion of Frontiersmen continued to recruit, as an independent organization, throughout the war. It did however restrict its recruitment to those men not deemed to be suitable for the armed forces due to age, fitness etc. I understand from the Legion's historians that records for the period are sparse to say the least but if you can give me an idea as to his age and where he was resident at the time I can have a look in a couple of magazines to see if there's anything on William. I've checked my database of 25th Royal Fusiliers (Frontiersmen) and William isn't on that so, although it's probably not 100% complete, I'd suggest that your assumption that he didn't go to East Africa is correct. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 (edited) Mate, Pre war I have a large number of Australians who joined this group, but served in AIF units during the war. Like; HOPE Charles Oliver 1318 Pte 01 LHR 10R att A Troop ASqn/Comp LHR 11-15 to 10 BAC 4-16 to 4 DAC 5-16 to HQ/10 FAB 11-16 to Spr 4 Div Sig Co 5-17 F&B (Legion of Frontiersmans 3 years) FRANKFORD Henry Laird Alexander 106 Cpl 02 LHR A Sqn WIA 22-6-15 hand shot reported 2 wounded at Popes Post (G) to clerk GHQ Murdos 10-15 to AProvC PM Imbros 12-15 to Sgt MP 3-16 to SSM 9-16 to 1st Ech GHQ 1-17 to RSM 7-17 revert Cpl 9-18 MSM 2xMID reasons not stated (Boer War 1st Imperial Light Horse (2604) (36754) (British The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regt) (Legion of Frontiersmen) HOLLAND William 314 Pte 12 LHR A Sqn to B Sqn 8-15 att DSqn/7 LHR 8-15 (G) reported 2 killed and 4 wounded when Turks heavy shelling of Holly Ridge and Shell Green at Ryries Post buried Shell Green Cemetery Gallipoli (Leigion of Frontiersmen) IDRIESS Ion Llewellyn 358 Pte 05 LHR A Sqn C Troop evac to (Govt) hosp (not stated) 7-15 rtn 8-15 WIA 5-9-15 L/arm bomb reported 130 men sent to Lone Pine * in Idriess page 45 by bomb with King at Lone Pine evac to (SMO Govt) hosp 9-15 (G) rtn 1-16 T/att Ordnance NZMBde 7-17 rtn 8-17 WIA 2-12-17 R/arm & L/buttock reported area shelled at Bald Hill RTA wounded disch 10-5-18 (Legion of Frontiersman) later author written short pieces for the Bulletin and published forty-seven books including "The Desert Column" "The Cattle King" (1936) and "Flynn of the Inland" (1932) OBE ALSMAN Rollie Orvel 19372 Spr LH Sig Svc Special Reinf att Military Telegraph Sect (6 Light Rlwy Sig Sect) 11-17 to 3 Airline Sect 5-18 to 2 LH Sig Sqn 7-18 (Canadian Frontiersman 3 years) HENDERSON Frederick Fleming 57556 Pte 3 GSR Tas tos 03 LHR 10-18 FGCM 3-1-19 stealing beer sentenced 4 months HL to Gabbari prison 3-19 rtn 5-19 to UK leave Ex British Army 25Bn (Frontiersmen) Royal Fusiliers deserted in East Africa 9-1-18 AKA served as alais Frederick Fleming GATLIFF Charles Edwin Lt 04 LHR 12R tos 50Bty/13 FAB 3-16 to 51Bty 5-16 prom Capt 50Bty 1-18 to 5 DAC 7-18 F&B (Boer War Scotts Railway Guards & Canadian Scouts (34442) to 6 ACH DNE) (Lt Legion of Frontiersmen 1906) brothers Frank Capt 14 FAB KIA, Vivian DSO Maj 2 FAB, Thomas 13 FAB and Wilfred 13 FAB Just to name a very few Also NZ soldiers GRIGOR Robert Renton 9/143 Maj NZEF MB/OMR (OC 12th Otago Sqn) to LtCol RHQ/OMR (after death LtCol Bauchop) 8-15 DSO - for his actions at Bauchops Hill 8-15 & 2xMID on Gallipoli (G) to 2ic RHQ/2 Anzac LHR F&B RTNZ MU 1917 (prov 2/Lt Clutha MR 1898 to Capt NZTA + Legion of Frontiersman) born 1872 Cheers S.B Edited 27 February , 2019 by stevebecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 28 February , 2019 Share Posted 28 February , 2019 13 hours ago, stevebecker said: HENDERSON Frederick Fleming 57556 Pte 3 GSR Tas tos 03 LHR 10-18 FGCM 3-1-19 stealing beer sentenced 4 months HL to Gabbari prison 3-19 rtn 5-19 to UK leave Ex British Army 25Bn (Frontiersmen) Royal Fusiliers deserted in East Africa 9-1-18 AKA served as alais Frederick Fleming Steve I have him as HENDERSON Fleming 14817 Pte. (L/Cpl.) 25th Royal Fusiliers (Frontiersmen). Overseas in East Africa 10-04-15 to 19-01-18 when declared a deserter. FGCM 16-03-16 New Moshi G.E.A. Striking or Violence to SO/Drunkenness/Escaping Confinement - 6 months imprisonment & reduced to ranks Pte. (from Cpl.) DCM 21-12-17 Simonstown S.A. Drunkenness - Reduced to ranks Pte. (from Sgt.) Re-enlisted 3rd LHR A.I.F. 57556. 1914/1915 Star restored & BWM/Victory Medals issued by Australian Records. Regards Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 28 February , 2019 Share Posted 28 February , 2019 (edited) Mate, Thanks for the extra details, didn't stop him from getting into trouble again. Steve is that a DCM to him? Any details on that and was it withdrawn because of his crimes? S.B Edited 28 February , 2019 by stevebecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 1 March , 2019 Share Posted 1 March , 2019 1 hour ago, stevebecker said: Steve is that a DCM to him? Sorry, I didn’t think when writing DCM that it had more than one meaning. DCM in this instance is District Courts Martial. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 1 March , 2019 Share Posted 1 March , 2019 Mate, Dohhh A Simpson moment for me sorry. S.B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 26 January , 2020 Share Posted 26 January , 2020 Nice to find the thread... I was going to ask the Pals what they know about it. A longtime friend of the Boyfriend has invited us (he has for the last 3 years actually) to join them for a ceremony and reception. The guy has been joining Boyfriend for a few shooting competitions and somehow wants us both to come over for a ceremony... so guess we'll be going. Found this on the diplomacy site: https://unitedkingdom.diplomatie.belgium.be/en/news/legion-frontiersmen. nice little explanation of the whole thing. I'm just a bit worried that what is left today has no real military significance anymore. Somebody has more information about it?? M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Abbott Posted 26 January , 2020 Share Posted 26 January , 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Marilyne said: Nice to find the thread... I was going to ask the Pals what they know about it. A longtime friend of the Boyfriend has invited us (he has for the last 3 years actually) to join them for a ceremony and reception. The guy has been joining Boyfriend for a few shooting competitions and somehow wants us both to come over for a ceremony... so guess we'll be going. Found this on the diplomacy site: https://unitedkingdom.diplomatie.belgium.be/en/news/legion-frontiersmen. nice little explanation of the whole thing. I'm just a bit worried that what is left today has no real military significance anymore. Somebody has more information about it?? M. Think the UK one should have changed their name sometime in the past from the Legion of Frontiersmen to......the Mitty of Walts. Edited 27 January , 2020 by Ron Abbott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 27 January , 2020 Share Posted 27 January , 2020 aha… That's not good… M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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