BCBangkok Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 The kind people at Royal Dublin Fusiliers were able to trace a death recorded on the Bangkok War Memorial being ... Henry Leveridge 20401 R.D.F. 2nd Battalion Born Cork Ireland Enlisted Shoreditch Middlesex Died 21st March 1918 Memorial Pozieres Somme France ( no known grave) Will left to Mrs F Holloway 17 Cross Lances Road Hounslow Middlesex Residence Bangkok Siam Is there any way of tracing when in Cork he was born? Regards, Paul Cheesman Honorary Secretary The British Club Bangkok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 4 hours ago, BCBangkok said: The kind people at Royal Dublin Fusiliers were able to trace a death recorded on the Bangkok War Memorial being ... Henry Leveridge 20401 R.D.F. 2nd Battalion Born Cork Ireland Enlisted Shoreditch Middlesex Died 21st March 1918 Memorial Pozieres Somme France ( no known grave) Will left to Mrs F Holloway 17 Cross Lances Road Hounslow Middlesex Residence Bangkok Siam Is there any way of tracing when in Cork he was born? Regards, Paul Cheesman Honorary Secretary The British Club Bangkok There doesn't appear to be any Irish birth record for him - the nearest I can see is a Walter Leveridge but he was born 1914. In the 1901 census there are no Leveridge's recorded as living in Ireland. There is a medical record which notes his age as 20 in 1916. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 Did Henry have a middle initial by any chance? Or get married? George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jervis Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 His medal records have his name as “Loveridge”. There is a Henry Loveridge born in Athlone Co Westmeath in 1885, son of a soldier. Henry Loveridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jervis Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 (edited) On the 1911 census & 1901 census Edited 27 February , 2019 by Jervis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulianR Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 Once you get through to the right page it does not give you any thing more than his name and Army Number https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=70789&h=4757&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=PzZ4840&_phstart=successSource http://soldierswills.nationalarchives.ie/search/sw/results.jsp?surname=L*&firstname=&wo_number=&service_number=&wod_dd=&wod_mm=&wod_yyyy=&dd_dd=&dd_mm=&dd_yyyy=&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jervis Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 Hi Julian. The link for Leveridge’s WILL is not working. If you search any other soldiers name on the website & click the hyper link - you will see it load up a PDF document with typically the soldiers hand written informal will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jervis Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 Leveridge (Loveridge?) name on the Pozieres memorial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jervis Posted 27 February , 2019 Share Posted 27 February , 2019 Henry Loveridge was not born in Cork. However there does seem to be a connection to Cork. His Father George was living and working in Cork on the 1911 census. George Loveridge It it does seem quite plausible that Henry Leveridge (Cork) = Henry Loveridge (Athlone/Dublin) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCBangkok Posted 13 March , 2019 Author Share Posted 13 March , 2019 Dear all, Many thanks for your help in this matter. AS there are no recorded 'Leveridges' in Siam pre-WWI, I will research 'Loveridge' as ell. Regards, Paul Cheesman Honorary Secretary British Club Bangkok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 13 March , 2019 Share Posted 13 March , 2019 1. There is a small family tree on Ancestry (marked private, so you need to contact them) Ancestry Tree - click 2. Strange that he was living in Bangkok (or had Bangkok as his residence) . One has to question how or why he stated that. 3. His next of kin is given as Mrs F Holloway, which could not be his mother re-marrying as she was Mary Jane. So who was Mrs F Holloway, as it does not seem to have been a sisier who married either 4. He may not have been Henry Walter Loverage (though the balance of probability is that he was) and could for example have been Henry Holloway using Leverage and Bangkok as an alias. Experience tells me that soldiers usually did give a real contact as kin in case of their death. 5. 2nd RDF was really decimated on the day he died, he was one of hundreds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf mcm Posted 13 March , 2019 Share Posted 13 March , 2019 Corisande, With regard to item 3, the 'F' in Mrs F. Holloway may be her husband's initial. Regards, Alf McM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 13 March , 2019 Share Posted 13 March , 2019 Yes, that is possible that it is her husband I have tried in vain to get a "Holloway" at Cross Lanes Rd in 1911 census. Ancestry will not let me rfoine closer than "Cross Lanes Road" with over 300 people. No Holloways, but I cannot get no17 without looking at all 300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 13 March , 2019 Share Posted 13 March , 2019 There was a Frances Beatrice Holloway living with her husband, Ernest Edgar Holloway, at 14 Cross Lances Road in 1917. Her maiden name was Newman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 13 March , 2019 Share Posted 13 March , 2019 There is also in 1939 Register a Mrs Florence Beatrice Holloway living with husband at 14 Cross Lances Lane, but she married him in 1904 and was nee Florence Beatrice Newman That gives her dob as 1882, while 1911 census gives it as 1887 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCBangkok Posted 10 July , 2019 Author Share Posted 10 July , 2019 I have found out from a 1923 edition of the Straits Times (a Singapore newspaper), that his mother was Mrs Liebovitch. Perhaps he was born with the same name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf mcm Posted 10 July , 2019 Share Posted 10 July , 2019 I think it is more likely that her first husband {Leveridge/Loveridge} died, and she then married Mr. Liebovitch. There may be a record of her husband's death or her second marriage in The Straits Times. Regards, Alf McM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCBangkok Posted 25 July , 2019 Author Share Posted 25 July , 2019 (edited) I can trace a Mr J. Leobovitch, presumable his father, as a reporter on the 'Siam Maitri' - a weekly newspaper in 1912, Is anyone able to confirm a Henry Leibovitch born in Cork? Edited 25 July , 2019 by BCBangkok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 25 July , 2019 Share Posted 25 July , 2019 Not that I can see on Ancestry... George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf mcm Posted 25 July , 2019 Share Posted 25 July , 2019 Findmypast have a passenger list showing Abram Leibovitch sailing to Massachusettes in 1926. He was born in Siam in 1904, and his mother was Adela Leibovitch, living at 960 Sattornroad, Bangkok. He was a Student and nationality was Hebrew. His final destination was to be Chelsea. Perhaps he is a brother of Harry? https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=US%2FPASS%2FMA%2F005104565%2F00602&parentid=US%2FPASSENGERLISTS%2F00008775726 Regards, Alf McM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf mcm Posted 25 July , 2019 Share Posted 25 July , 2019 What if, when Harry attested and was asked where he was born he said 'Bangkok', but the attesting officer misheard this as 'born Cork'? Regards, Alf McM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 25 July , 2019 Share Posted 25 July , 2019 10 hours ago, BCBangkok said: Is anyone able to confirm a Henry Leibovitch born in Cork? One of the (many) great things about Ireland is full free access to BMD certs for this period You can chck all the permutations you want - click for Irish Government GRO free access. The answer to you question is "No" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 25 July , 2019 Share Posted 25 July , 2019 For the record, here is the man born Athlone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 25 July , 2019 Share Posted 25 July , 2019 On 13/03/2019 at 11:09, alf mcm said: With regard to item 3, the 'F' in Mrs F. Holloway may be her husband's initial Soldiers' Effects gives Legatee (no relationship noted) as Florence Holloway It also says he ha a War Grat of £15-10-00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 25 July , 2019 Share Posted 25 July , 2019 I am struck by the consonance and identical syllable stress pattern of Liebovitch and Leveridge - suggests the latter name might be just an anglicisation of the former? Apologies if you'd all accepted or rejected this possibility long since! Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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