mark holden Posted 27 January , 2019 Share Posted 27 January , 2019 I thought this example of the Grenade Carrier bucket type MK I may be of interest. Dated 1918 and in virtually unissued condition. Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 27 January , 2019 Share Posted 27 January , 2019 Is that Dartmouth & Co Ltd? Nice find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14276265 Posted 27 January , 2019 Share Posted 27 January , 2019 The maker is Oetzmann and Co. Ltd, London. A superb find. Thanks for sharing the images. 265 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark holden Posted 27 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 27 January , 2019 19 minutes ago, 14276265 said: The maker is Oetzmann and Co. Ltd, London. A superb find. Thanks for sharing the images. 265 Yes it is Oetzmann and Co Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRANVILLE Posted 27 January , 2019 Share Posted 27 January , 2019 Incredible! Where do you find something like that?! David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark holden Posted 27 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 27 January , 2019 5 minutes ago, GRANVILLE said: Incredible! Where do you find something like that?! David David, Mis-described on a dealers site as a horse feed bucket! Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 27 January , 2019 Share Posted 27 January , 2019 1 hour ago, mark holden said: David, Mis-described on a dealers site as a horse feed bucket! Regards Mark Very nice. Amazing condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 28 January , 2019 Share Posted 28 January , 2019 With the Mills grenades you have can you estimate how many it would hold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRANVILLE Posted 28 January , 2019 Share Posted 28 January , 2019 15 hours ago, mark holden said: David, Mis-described on a dealers site as a horse feed bucket! Regards Mark You know what. I saw that listing and passed completely over it on account of its description! Has anyone got any photos showing these carry bags being used? David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 28 January , 2019 Share Posted 28 January , 2019 39 minutes ago, GRANVILLE said: Has anyone got any photos showing these carry bags being used? David They seem to have been used in two ways. During trench raids there were 'carriers' who carried extra grenades for the bombers and in general trench use buckets of grenades were left in the trenches ready to repel attacks. I've only ever seen one photo of the latter use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark holden Posted 28 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 28 January , 2019 4 hours ago, Gunner Bailey said: With the Mills grenades you have can you estimate how many it would hold? I have 9 in the bag which just fills the bottom of the carrier based on that I would estimate 40 grenades however I doubt the cross strap would bear that weight over protracted field use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 28 January , 2019 Share Posted 28 January , 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, mark holden said: I have 9 in the bag which just fills the bottom of the carrier based on that I would estimate 40 grenades however I doubt the cross strap would bear that weight over protracted field use. Thanks Mark. I think you should allow for the drawstring to be tied tightly when calculating the numbers. There was a heated debate about this in the main Grenades thread in Arms. From figures I've seen the Trench Raid carriers would have had about 15-20 grenades to the bucket and when they were used for static defence there would be 20+ in a bucket. 40 grenades would weight about 68 pounds. As I said in the other thread carrying a full bucket with say 25-30 Mills grenades in it would be very hard over rough ground, barbed wire and at night during a trench raid. To carry 25 (42 pounds) or 30 grenades (50 pounds) as per the written instructions. In the other thread one officer, who I assumed never tried it suggested carriers could carry 2 buckets full of grenades. I would put that officer the numbskull class, just parroting what some idiot who wrote the instruction from the safety of an office in Whitehall said. Edited 28 January , 2019 by Gunner Bailey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark holden Posted 28 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 28 January , 2019 GB, I would agree with the logic of 20 grenades being a sensible number. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainfleet Posted 30 January , 2019 Share Posted 30 January , 2019 Fantastic find Mark, it looks brilliant with the Mills bombs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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