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Medal ribbon ID please.


GWF1967

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Hi, 

 Would I be right to think this is a VC ribbon bar? 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Terry_Reeves said:

The ribbon normally had a replica of the cross attached.

Only since 1917: you can see many examples of holders with just a plain ribbon bar.

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1 hour ago, ajsmith said:

Only since 1917: you can see many examples of holders with just a plain ribbon bar.

Many thanks for dating, I'd seen some plain ribbon VC examples; 

 

1 hour ago, Terry_Reeves said:

The ribbon normally had a replica of the cross attached.

 

TR

Thanks Terry.

I wondered if there were any similar ribbons, British or Allied, the VC could be confused with.

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2 hours ago, GWF1967 said:

Many thanks for dating, I'd seen some plain ribbon VC examples; 

 

Thanks Terry.

I wondered if there were any similar ribbons, British or Allied, the VC could be confused with.

 

The Army LSGC medal was also plain crimson until 1917 (when the two end stripes were added to help distinguish it from similar ribbons like the VC). The Army MSM was plain crimson as well until 1916. I would say it's impossible to be sure it is the pre-1917 VC ribbon or otherwise without corroborating evidence:

Image result for army long service and good conduct medal

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Image result for victoria cross

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6 hours ago, Andrew Upton said:

 

The Army LSGC medal was also plain crimson until 1917 (when the two end stripes were added to help distinguish it from similar ribbons like the VC). The Army MSM was plain crimson as well until 1916. I would say it's impossible to be sure it is the pre-1917 VC ribbon or otherwise without corroborating evidence:

Image result for army long service and good conduct medal

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Image result for victoria cross

Thanks Andrew. 

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The VC ribbon is wider than the LSGC if that helps?

 

Mike

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On ‎24‎/‎01‎/‎2019 at 14:52, GWF1967 said:

VC ribbon bar

Obvious question no one has asked;  do you know who he is ?  Is there a date for the photo ?

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47 minutes ago, bif said:

Obvious question no one has asked;  do you know who he is ?  Is there a date for the photo ?

He was tentatively id'd,  I posted in "Soldiers"

 

 

No date for the photo. 

 

3 hours ago, Medaler said:

The VC ribbon is wider than the LSGC if that helps?

 

Mike

Possibly, thanks. 

 Is he a little too young for a LSGC?

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11 minutes ago, GWF1967 said:

He was tentatively id'd, 

Thank you, kindly.  A very curious situation ?

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  • 3 weeks later...

Bombardier, later BSM, Horlock was killed in the torpedoing of the HMT Aragon in 1917.  He is buried in Alexandria.  He also is memorialised in Langrish parish church (St John the Evangelist) and has one f the VC stones in Alton too!

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10 hours ago, BullerTurner said:

Bombardier, later BSM, Horlock was killed in the torpedoing of the HMT Aragon in 1917.  He is buried in Alexandria.  He also is memorialised in Langrish parish church (St John the Evangelist) and has one f the VC stones in Alton too!

Many thanks for the memorial information BullerTurner. 

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As an ex-Gunner, who lived in Hampshire, I took an interest, GWF1967!

 

When the new memorial was installed, in 2000 or 2001, many members of 10 (Assaye) AD Bay, the descendant battery, attended.  One of the most distinguished batteries in the Royal Regiment...

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