stevejgarton Posted 24 January , 2019 Share Posted 24 January , 2019 Trying to make sense of my grandfathers WW1 service record. I have no knowledge of these documents and I would appreciate any help. To start I have attached 2 clips and would like to know where Hadar Hosp (I think it reads) is or was. The other clip "employment" looks like he was demobbed in 1919 from Sheerness. Can someone please shed some light on HMS Actaeon and the various reference numbers. Thanks Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 24 January , 2019 Share Posted 24 January , 2019 The hospital is the Royal Naval Hospital, Haslar, Gosport. He was demobilised from HMS ACTAEON, the torpedo school and parenting base for boats of the Auxiliary Patrol at Sheerness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevejgarton Posted 24 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 24 January , 2019 3 minutes ago, horatio2 said: The hospital is the Royal Naval Hospital, Haslar, Gosport. He was demobilised from HMS ACTAEON, the torpedo school and parenting base for boats of the Auxiliary Patrol at Sheerness. Thanks, very interesting. It looks like HMS Actaeon was shore based, would that mean he did not see active service, as it does seem from the record card that he was a reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 24 January , 2019 Share Posted 24 January , 2019 The records are for a rating in the Royal Naval Reserve but appear to be for two different men. Was your grandfather Henry Duffin, 2361.SD, RNR, as shown in the first clip? Duffin was invalided out of the RNR on 28 Mar 1918, so he could not have been demobilised eleven months later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevejgarton Posted 24 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 24 January , 2019 15 minutes ago, horatio2 said: The records are for a rating in the Royal Naval Reserve but appear to be for two different men. Was your grandfather Henry Duffin, 2361.SD, RNR, as shown in the first clip? Duffin was invalided out of the RNR on 28 Mar 1918, so he could not have been demobilised eleven months later. That explains some of the confusion, it appears some of the entries as you suspect have been entered in error, my grandfather was Harry Duffin, I think it will help if I show the full record cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 24 January , 2019 Share Posted 24 January , 2019 (edited) That explains things. Your GF certainly did serve at sea. The record is difficult to read but he served in the hired Hull trawler HMS GULL (minesweeper) in UK waters and also in the Mediterranean/Adriatic in the hired Bristol trawler HMS PORTSMOUTH (minesweeper). Edited 24 January , 2019 by horatio2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 24 January , 2019 Share Posted 24 January , 2019 I think he served latterly in the Admiralty drifter HMS FOGBOW (minesweeper) based on HMS ACTAEON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevejgarton Posted 24 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 24 January , 2019 Ok thats great. So is it fair to say that the info on the first image on the right hand side is for Henry Duffin and been incorrectly entered on the record for my GF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 24 January , 2019 Share Posted 24 January , 2019 Difficult to read the detail but that appears to be the case. The error was spotted and incorrect entries were deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevejgarton Posted 24 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 24 January , 2019 5 minutes ago, horatio2 said: I think he served latterly in the Admiralty drifter HMS FOGBOW (minesweeper) based on HMS ACTAEON. That makes sense as my aunt told me he served in the minesweepers in WW1 I have tried to increase the image size to see if anything else can be read. Thanks for your help, it all seems clearer now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 24 January , 2019 Share Posted 24 January , 2019 His last boat seems to have been the hired Hull trawler HMS MOPSA (minesweeper) based on ACTAEON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little bob Posted 24 January , 2019 Share Posted 24 January , 2019 Steam Trawler BL10 Portsmouth requisitioned by the Navy 1915 Admiralty no.800 H M S Portsmouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevejgarton Posted 24 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 24 January , 2019 2 hours ago, stevejgarton said: That makes sense as my aunt told me he served in the minesweepers in WW1 I have tried to increase the image size to see if anything else can be read. Thanks for your help, it all seems clearer now. In the first column can someone tell me what is written under Vivid from please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 24 January , 2019 Share Posted 24 January , 2019 HMS QUEEN - parent ship at Taranto for trawlers and drifters operating in the Adriatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevejgarton Posted 24 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 24 January , 2019 Is there a way of finding out what the prize money was awarded for, are there any records? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevejgarton Posted 24 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 24 January , 2019 Also I note a gap in service if my reading is correct between Jan 15 to Mar 18, if there anything on the card to suggest where he was serving in the interim, sorry for my lack of knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 24 January , 2019 Share Posted 24 January , 2019 Yes, there is a gap after departing COLUMBINE (GULL) in January 1915. On 9 March 1918 he joined "HT PORTSMOUTH from EGMONT", so it would appear that for at least part of the gap he was at the Malta Base (HMS EGMONT). HMS PORTSMOUTH had been based on EGMONT since 20 Nov 1915 and transferred to QUEEN on 9 Aug 1918. I can find no records of prize money awards for any of his boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevejgarton Posted 24 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 24 January , 2019 13 minutes ago, horatio2 said: Yes, there is a gap after departing COLUMBINE (GULL) in January 1915. On 9 March 1918 he joined "HT PORTSMOUTH from EGMONT", so it would appear that for at least part of the gap he was at the Malta Base (HMS EGMONT). HMS PORTSMOUTH had been based on EGMONT since 20 Nov 1915 and transferred to QUEEN on 9 Aug 1918. I can find no records of prize money awards for any of his boats. Thanks very much, starting to come together now, getting a real picture of the story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevejgarton Posted 25 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 25 January , 2019 Another question: the date of discharge from HMS Mopsa in the image above is 4/3/19, however in the image at the start of the thread it stated demobbed a month earlier on 4th Feb, I am confused, can someone please enlighten me. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 25 January , 2019 Share Posted 25 January , 2019 (edited) A clerical error, perhaps. Per this link, MOPSA was returned to her owners on 18 Feb 1919, so the February demob date may be correct. http://www.llangibby.eclipse.co.uk/milfordtrawlers/accidents & incidents/mopsa_h966.htm I can now fill the gap after COLUMBINE. It appears that he remained in HMS GULL. COLUMBINE (Firth of Forth) handed over parent ship duties for GULL to HMS STEPHEN FURNESS at Invergordon (for Cromarty and Peterhead) on 18 Jan 1915. On 12 Oct 1915 GULL was transferred to the Orkney Auxiliary Patrol parent ship HMS ZARIA. Shortly thereafter GULL was transferred to the Mediterranean and was being parented by HMS EGMONT at Malta from 1 Jan 1916. He remained serving in GULL based on EGMONT until 8 Mar 1918 when he transferred to HMS PORTSMOUTH, which transferred to HMS QUEEN on 9 Aug 1918. Edited 25 January , 2019 by horatio2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevejgarton Posted 25 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 25 January , 2019 Once again thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevejgarton Posted 25 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 25 January , 2019 Horatio, how does the Vivid fit into this? wasn't that the base at Devonport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 25 January , 2019 Share Posted 25 January , 2019 It looks as though his time back in UK after leaving PORTSMOUTH at Taranto and before joining FOGBOW was spent first in the barracks at Devonport (HMS VIVID) and then at Chatham (HMS PEMBROKE). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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