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Reason For Early Discharge


Margaretnolan

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Can anyone identify the cap badge in the attached photos please. Apologies if it’s not  clear enough as I don’t have a scanned image.

 

This is a photo of John Patrick Quinlan. Born 31st October 1898 to Annie Quinlan and John Winstanley in Altrincham.

On the 1901 census he is named at John Winstanley. He married Josephine Barber in 1922. On his marriage cert he is named at John Quinlan but signs himself John Winstanley.

when he died in 1979 he is John Winstanley.

 

I cant find anything on his Military career as I don’t know his regiment. Someone said the cap badge could be the Suffolk Regiment. I have found some John Quinlans but none that tie in with his birth year.

He was in Ireland around 1918 and maybe later but his family are unsure. He was in England when he got married in 1922 and his occupation was listed as Labourer.

Any help greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Jacorb said:

The badge does look a lot like the Suffolk Regiment, but I can't find any military records of his 

 

Thanks. I’m stumped.

 

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If Suffolks

First Name: John

Surname: Quinlan

Rank: Private

Service Number: 27307

12th Suffolks 

...but too old for yours I think

George

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In 1901 living with grandmother Ellen?

George

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JPQ or W's parent's married first quarter 1901 in Bucklow District Cheshire

And possibly his father tried to sign up on 2nd September 1914

First name(s)John

Last name Winstanley

Age34

Birth year1880

Birth town St Helens

Birth county Lancashire

Birth country England

Service number12074

Regiment South Lancashire Regiment

Year1914

next of kin is Annie. But not certain of course!

George

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1 hour ago, George Rayner said:

JPQ or W's parent's married first quarter 1901 in Bucklow District Cheshire

And possibly his father tried to sign up on 2nd September 1914

First name(s)John

Last name Winstanley

Age34

Birth year1880

Birth town St Helens

Birth county Lancashire

Birth country England

Service number12074

Regiment South Lancashire Regiment

Year1914

next of kin is Annie. But not certain of course!

George

 

 

That’s interesting. John Winstanley mentioned above born 1880 could be John Quinlans Winstanley’s dad. There is a connection to St. Helens and JQW was 5ft 4 according to his grandson. 

John Winstanley 12074 was 5ft 3..

 

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22 minutes ago, Margaretnolan said:

 

 

That’s interesting. John Winstanley mentioned above born 1880 could be John Quinlans Winstanley’s dad. There is a connection to St. Helens and JQW was 5ft 4 according to his grandson. 

John Winstanley 12074 was 5ft 3..

 

Yes that's what I thought. Doesn't really help with your query though|

Goerge

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Just now, George Rayner said:

Yes that's what I thought. Doesn't really help with your query though|

Goerge

 

Well it will. His family didn’t mention that JQS dad was in the army, providing John 12074 is the right man. I’m waiting for his grandson to get back to me. 

 

Margaret

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31 minutes ago, Margaretnolan said:

 

Well it will. His family didn’t mention that JQS dad was in the army, providing John 12074 is the right man. I’m waiting for his grandson to get back to me. 

 

Margaret

 

George what does the statement mean on the attached pic? Why would he have been discharged so early. 

I can’t find anything else on him.

 

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I'm sorry I don't know. We need some of our more experienced folk to drop in for that I think

George

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34 minutes ago, George Rayner said:

I'm sorry I don't know. We need some of our more experienced folk to drop in for that I think

George

 

Thanks for your help George. Much appreciated. 

Margaret 

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Perhaps you should re-post this as a new thread to see what the experts say?

George

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2 minutes ago, George Rayner said:

Perhaps you should re-post this as a new thread to see what the experts say?

George

Thanks George. Hi grandson doesn’t think this is his relation..but now I’m curious as to why he was discharged so soon.

I will post it on a separate thread. 

Margaret

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I am wondering why this man John Winstanley might have been discharged after little more than a month in Service. He was 34 years old. 

Thank you.

 

Margaret

 

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Id guess a medical  reason

 

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Im basing that on all the coldstreamers papers i have seen that have had discharges prior to arriving in France / Flanders - serious illness, accident or something medically wrong was discovered - only other I have seen is due to age but he is 34 so rules that out  - and if he was a reserve occupation wouldnt expect him to get this far (he was a glass blower / maker - one or other I've forgotten now!)

 

 

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Any thoughts on what

WO F27/

means/stands for?

George

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WO is normally War Office. 

Form 27?

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Thought it was War Office so does 1-10-14 denote a date when a 'new' rule was introduced? And if so where can it be found? Useful for other research

George

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These will be "War Office Instructions"  which are available at National Archive Kew under ref. WO 293.

The instruction was apparently dated 1 October 1914. Unfortunately when I took my notes it was deemed uninteresting so I have no record of it.

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