George Rayner Posted 16 January , 2019 Share Posted 16 January , 2019 At our local History Group meeting last evening (15th) our detectorist tabled this cap badge. Is it possible to date it please? George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullybrone Posted 16 January , 2019 Share Posted 16 January , 2019 Hi, The lack of the Ubique motto ought to give the experts a good chance of identifying a specific unit. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 16 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 16 January , 2019 Thanks. Lets hope so as this is a truly fascinating piece of landscape re:camps and training for most of 20th Century! George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 16 January , 2019 Share Posted 16 January , 2019 (edited) It is the cap badge of the Royal Artillery Territorial Force (TF) units. The TF was an auxiliary organisation of part-time citizen soldiers created in 1908 and as it was to wear largely the same uniform as regular troops it was decided that insignia bearing scrolls, etc. with honours not earned by auxiliary troops would be either left blank or replaced with something else. In the case of the Royal Artillery the scroll bearing the honour ‘UBIQUE’ (meaning ‘everywhere’) was replaced with two branches of laurels tied in the centre. In 1916 the Military Service Act created compulsory military conscription with men within certain age groups called up and sent whence they were needed within the Army, etc. so that differentiation between regular, Territorial and war-raised units became to a degree meaningless. I cannot recall the precise date but such different badges were abolished so that by the Wars end standard badges complete with honours were issued to all. You can thus be fairly sure that the badge your detectorist has found dates from between 1908 and 1919 approximately. Edited 16 January , 2019 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 16 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 16 January , 2019 Thank you so much Frogsmile. I conclude that there is no way to differentiate between which TF units though? As this is rural Suffolk that is a possibility although the area was a camp for Lincolnshire Yeomanry so they may have had a unit with them? George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 16 January , 2019 Share Posted 16 January , 2019 Where exactly was it found? I'm sure there are experts here who could give you the history of the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 16 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 16 January , 2019 (edited) Oakley Park which is in North Suffolk. Parish is Hoxne (pronounced Hoxen!) George Edited 16 January , 2019 by George Rayner Lack of time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 16 January , 2019 Share Posted 16 January , 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, George Rayner said: Thank you so much Frogsmile. I conclude that there is no way to differentiate between which TF units though? As this is rural Suffolk that is a possibility although the area was a camp for Lincolnshire Yeomanry so they may have had a unit with them? George In the case of the RA (TF) the cap badge was standard and only the shoulder titles showed the actual unit. Edited 16 January , 2019 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rayner Posted 16 January , 2019 Author Share Posted 16 January , 2019 That may prove useful if I can track down any photos. Seems to be a popular task at the moment George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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