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How strict were rules for convalescent officers?

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Madmeg

Hi

I have managed to find medical records for my Grandfather on FMP.

He is shown as at QAMH Millbank from 26/2/17 to 27/4/17, he was discharged to RFC Hsp (sic- I assume Royal Flying Corp Hospital (possibly at Reading???))

 

My problem is that I have photographs of my GF in Bournemouth taken during the spring of 1917.

The photos have now been dated to being between 10/4/17 and 24/4/17 or 11/5/17-15/5/17- however given the lack of foliage on trees in the background the earlier dates seem most likely.

 

Could convalescent officers leave the hospital and take themselves off on jollies? The trip to Bournemouth by train wouldn't have been too difficult, he had a "GSW to ankle and [something- presumed fracture] fibula". In some of the photographs he is using sticks. Were there any official trips to the seaside organised by the hospital? Or could he have been placed in a convalescent home (nearer Bournemouth) without it being recorded in the Hospital notes?

 

having a bit of a puzzle over this one I'd really like to work this out- it was in Bournemouth that he met my grandmother (to be)

 

 

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Heid the Ba

Carton de Wiart repeatedly took himself out the official medical chain entirely so there was some leeway.

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Madmeg

Thanks- De Wiart was a little bit higher up the pecking order than my 2nd Lt GF but obviously it was possible.

 

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Heid the Ba

I think he was only a lieutenant when he came back from Somaliland having lost his eye.  He certainly was no higher than a captain the first time he did it.

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Madmeg

My GF is shown with several other men at Bournemouth who also appear in photos outside some sort of meical facility- which I have not been aboe to ientify- from the pictures I can fin of QAMH Millbank it seem unlikely to have been that building- I'm guessing a convalescent facilty but it isn;t shown on his record- he was discharge to RFC Hsp (Royal fliying Corp Hopital?) but the other men weren't in the RFC so I'm guessing they were all together BEFORE then. His discharge was on the 27th Apr but the photos must have been taken between 10/4 and 24/4 as that is the only time when one of the other men was on leave (he was Awol 11/5-15/5 but i'm picking the earlier date)

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Madmeg

UPDATE, 

I have now found another photo of my gf in front of this quite dstintinctive building (see the photo posted of my "old bedfordian" in another thread. She has actually bothered to lable this one as "Jimmy outside a hospital near Bournemouth"

Now I am wondering what hospitals there were "near Bournemouth"? . I know there was one at Wimborne because in 1918 my GM and some friends did a Pierrot show there for "the Tommies" (ie not officers? ) . There are a number of photos taken outside this Hospital near Bournmouth. All the men shown appear to be officers (some of the photos are pretty poor).

 

I have eliminated the Boscombe Hospital- my grandmother was living at Linden Hall Hotel at the time which was just a hop and a skip away from Owls Road, also Mont Dore as this was in use by Indian Soldiers - as well as being very much in the middle of Bournemouth. I suspect that if the hospital had been at Christchurch she would have said so, or any other main centre. So anyone have any idea of what hospitals there were "near Bournemouth" ? His medical record does not show him as moving from QAMH until discharge.

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pierssc
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I have been researching an RFC officer who was wounded in February 1917.  Having been repatriated he started at Guy's Hospital in London, then was sent to the Officers' Convalescent Hospital at Branksome Gate, Bournemouth, from there to Springfield Convalescent Hospital at Parkstone, Poole, from there to the Officers' Command depot at Eastbourne, and finally the Red Cross Hospital at Percival Terrace, Brighton.

 

In his case he suffered GSWs to the elbow and buttocks, the latter proving the more serious in that it affected his walking for the rest of his life.  There is a whole series of Medical Board reports on his file; basically these hospitals seem to have been trying to improve his mobility with massage, walking aids and whatever physio  there was at that time (which I haven't researched!).

 

 

... and in Googling Branksome Gate just now I found this list (see the second post on this page, actually Post 43 in the thread): http://www.militarian.com/threads/ww1-men-born-or-connected-with-the-poole-bournemouth-dorset-area.7143/page-3

 

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Madmeg

Thanks Piers (only checking the forum irregularly  these days so takes a while to see updates)

I have found the Branksome Gate on various lists but am relatively sure that it is not the one in my photos (I think I found a picture somewhere), Springfield Convalescent is new to me- will check it out. 

GF's hospital records show him as Ward 60 at QAMH- I'm wondering if this was just a catchall for a patient who had been transferred to somewhere else <sigh>

He was then (end of April) sent to "RFC" hospital- but which one of the many many <more sighs>.

I have also found some more interesting photos-

Queen Mary obviously doing some sort of visit- it is (but of course) entirely unlabelled and I originally thought it was from my grandmother's collection and had tentatively assigned it to a possible visit to a hspital in Eastbourne in 1916 (which is documented).

However, closer inspection shows the dress is not the same as the 1916 photos. Plus there are some men in the photo who I think are in a group shot with my GF outside a large house- there is a nurse included in one of the shots so I am guessing a hospital- GF has no sticks and none of the men have any visible injures so presumably convalescents about to return to duty. So this may be from my GF photos- I'm currently trying to track QM's movements during 1917 (historcal royal stalking :-D) to see where this convalescent home might be.

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Madmeg

Ref- physio- can' thelp on that but medical massage was very much a thing- somewhere I have an old nursing manual of my GM's with various passive and active exercises and massage techniques for patients. This would date from about that time

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pierssc

I was thinking you'd given up!

 

Well I don't want to get sidetracked on exactly what treatment my chap had had but my point is that most of these places were trying to actively improve his mobility and get him walking again - which is probably what they were also trying to do for yours.

 

The Branksome hospital I found photos of online doesn't seem to be the Branksome Gate one.

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